Lynn v. Sekulow

Lynn v. Sekulow


No Halloween Outcry; Concern Over Use of Taxpayer Funds

posted by Jay Sekulow

Barry, we don’t get a lot of calls about Halloween.  Over the years, it’s not something we hear much about.  And this year is no exception.  What we are hearing about from a lot of folks, though, is the continued frustration and concern about the use of taxpayer dollars to fund organizations like Planned Parenthood – the nation’s largest abortion provider.

 

A recent example is what’s taking place in Ohio where a local government body approved a $50,000 grant to Planned Parenthood to provide ‘sex education’ in public schools.  

 

At the national level, as Planned Parenthood continues to receive hundreds of millions of federal taxpayer dollars each year, debate is intensifying over whether the organization should receive ANY federal funds in the future.  In Congress, Rep. Mike Pence of Indiana has introduced H.R. 614 which would prohibit federal dollars from going to Planned Parenthood.

As this unfolds, I want to call your attention to an important case before the U.S. Court of Appeals for Ninth Circuit – a multi-million dollar fraud case against Planned Parenthood affiliates in California.

 

We represent a former executive of the Planned Parenthood Los Angeles affiliate.  He is now a federal whistleblower.  And the allegations are very serious.  Specifically, the allegation in this case is that PP affiliates in California illegally marked up the supposed cost of various birth control drugs when seeking government reimbursement, resulting in tens of millions of dollars of overbilling – at taxpayer expense.

 

The Los Angeles Times has reported on this case and noted that the overbilling began in the late 1990′s.  The report points out that in just one year – 2003 – a state audit in California found at least $5.2 million in overbilling from just one of the nine state affiliates. 

 

A federal court dismissed the initial lawsuit brought by our client saying the former PP executive did not qualify as a whistleblower.  In our briefs filed in this case, we’re asking the federal appeals court to overturn that decision and reinstate the lawsuit.  Our arguments are clear: our client does indeed meet the legal definition of a federal whistleblower under the federal False Claims Act (FCA) which forbids government contractors from submitting “false or fraudulent” claims for payment. The FCA also authorizes private individuals to bring suit against the offenders to recover the fraudulently obtained funds.

 

The FCA was designed to remedy illegal runs on taxpayer funds.  And, no organization – not even Planned Parenthood – should be permitted to scam the public treasury for profit. 

 

Barry, how about standing with us on this issue?  How about filing an amicus brief supporting our position?

 

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Mr. Incredible

posted October 26, 2009 at 4:33 pm


^^Rep. Mike Pence of Indiana has introduced H.R. 614 which would prohibit federal dollars from going to Planned Parenthood.^^
It’s ’bout time!
Is a woman’s claimed “Right” to choose to save her social life at the expense of the person’s life inside her dependent on taxpayer money?
Does having to stop at a red light while on the way to the abortuary also interfere with her so-called “Right to choose”?
Let’s gitter done!



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 26, 2009 at 5:06 pm


So, a woman with an active social life needs her money to go to bars, and she wants not to use her own money to pay the abortionist for her own irresponsibility and immorality. She finds a “sugah daddy” in Planned Parenthood which tells her, “No problemo, you poor dear, cuz it ain’t yo’ money and it ain’t ours!” Can YOU say, “SCAM”?



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 26, 2009 at 5:11 pm


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/10/25/state/n193421D23.DTL
Sooooooo, a man is arrested for killing an unborn child. In Kahlifornia, yet. Heh.



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Your Name

posted October 26, 2009 at 7:32 pm


Well it’s about time somebody points the finger at the actual event. Besides me, of course. Red lights, green lights, it’s all the same.
People showing up to murder other people. They don’t care what they do to you. As long as they get what they want. Get her done. Well, it’s funny how people try and destroy your life. Then they enter into your world and while taking everything which matters to you, in light of your circumstances. They don’t care as long as they get what they want, while trying to destroy yours. Repeat her words back. Well, I’m only pointing out when somebody intentionally wants to take what matters to you, far be it from me to actually want to point it out to them and act like their on such moral ground. Nope, can’t say thay was good choice, now was it ladies. Smirk all you want below the dryers. As long as you have a roof over your head while trying to destroy what matters to her most, is that what is important to you ladies. Well you made your bed, now you can lie in it. Selfish ambition gets you that. I suppose you don’t want me to have anything for myself, hey girls. I can’t help it if you slept with my husband and drank all night in the bars, while telling all your girlfriends to stick around and make me feel uncomfortable. What does this have to do with baby killing? I don’t know, maybe you show up to go for the gugular so you get me so sick and tired of life that I don’t want to work at my job. Fat chance.
Mrs. Incredible.



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Boris

posted October 26, 2009 at 11:36 pm


Wow the entire Incredible family is nuts.



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 27, 2009 at 1:30 am


Boris
October 26, 2009 11:36 PM
Wow the entire Incredible family is nuts.
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To YOU, from YOUR perspective, yes. But THAT is your way of complimenting us. Thanks!



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 27, 2009 at 1:37 am


So, Bizarro Boris, California officials arrest a man suspected of murdering an unborn child. Are they nuts, too?
Now, we know that the Boris that is SUPPOSED to be on this planet is a real nice guy, and he says and does the right and correct things. You are not him.
You — Bizarro Boris — are the opposite, as the name implies.
So, all of us know that you will always be on the wrong side of things, spring-loaded contrariness. That is simply your nature from the Bizarro world.



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N. Lindzee Lindholm

posted October 27, 2009 at 9:22 am


I’ll stand with you. It is a tragedy that ANY federal dollars go to support Planned Parenthood, let alone this intentional, fraudulent scheme to mark up birth control drugs. How come there is not more federal oversight of this organization, especially when millions of dollars go to this group? More audits of Planned Parenthood’s records need to be conducted in the future. In addition, this suit needs to stand to recover this group’s exploitation of the federal pocketbook.



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Your Name

posted October 27, 2009 at 2:28 pm


Boris, I find it a bit odd what you defend? Why do you defend the right to murder people in this country? On another note, why do you not consider the God eternity?
Mrs. Incredible



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Your Name

posted October 27, 2009 at 2:34 pm


Why do you want to defend murdering children in this country? As a choice???
Interesting that you want this choice to be a choice???
Posterity is just that. So why are you not defending out children?
Mrs. Incredible



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Your Name

posted October 27, 2009 at 2:38 pm


Your messing with our countries future by honoring the murders of children with the law of choosing to let people murder.
C



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Eric the Righteous

posted October 27, 2009 at 3:32 pm


For the umpteenth time, Bible thumpers & enablers of Padre Pedophile: it’s not a person, it’s just fetal tissue. Ever had a tooth pulled? Your appendix removed? Not very different morally from having a fetaledectomy. So get over it!



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Katie Angel

posted October 27, 2009 at 3:58 pm


To the incredibles:
If you don’t believe in abortion (as I don’t), then don’t have one. That is choice. But we live in a country where not everyone agrees with us about when life begins – and since we are not a theocracy, that means that other peoples opinions have to be considered – even when we don’t agree with them. There are a lot of things that I don’t agree with that are done in this country but there are a lot I do – chalk it up to democracy.



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Boris

posted October 27, 2009 at 9:11 pm


Abortion is not murder and fetuses are not children.



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 27, 2009 at 10:37 pm


Katie Angel
October 27, 2009 3:58 PM
To the incredibles:
If you don’t believe in abortion (as I don’t), then don’t have one.
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Likewise, if you don’t believe in murder, then don’t murder.
Katie Angel
October 27, 2009 3:58 PM
…not everyone agrees with us about when life begins…
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That’s cuz they wanna propagate confusion about it.
Katie Angel
October 27, 2009 3:58 PM
- and since we are not a theocracy, that means that other peoples opinions have to be considered – even when we don’t agree with them.
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I consider them. Then, when I find that what they say isn’t worth my consideration, I discard them.
Boris
October 27, 2009 9:11 PM
Abortion is not murder and fetuses are not children.
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California officials have arrested a man suspected of murdering an unborn child. The unborn child would have to be considered a person for that to happen.
Inheritance law treats the unborn, beginning at conception, as persons.



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Rich

posted October 27, 2009 at 11:37 pm


Mr. Sekulow tosses out a red herring really. All organizations are populated by people, humans with the standard set of weaknesses. If Planned Parenthood committed fraud, and I am guessing they did, that would not invalidate the merit of the overall efforts of Planned Parenthood.
Fraud has been committed on Wall Street. I don’t hear Republicans planning on shutting down Wall Street. The Catholic church has harbored sex offenders, perhaps Congress will seek to shut down that enterprise down. As well, Congress has had plenty of corrupt politicians in its history, judging by the current dollars flowing from insurance companies into the pockets of congressmen, I would guess the corruption still exists. In spite of that, shutting down Congress would not be a good idea.
The right thing to do is hunt down corruption, expose it, and prosecute the offenders.



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 27, 2009 at 11:38 pm


Katie Angel
October 27, 2009 3:58 PM
To the incredibles:
If you don’t believe in abortion (as I don’t), then don’t have one.
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Well, if a person chooses not to believe in God through Christ, then he shouldn’t. However, as your statement indicates, that shouldn’t stop me from talking about it. I’m glad you agree with me.



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 28, 2009 at 5:29 am


Katie Angel
October 27, 2009 3:58 PM
…not everyone agrees with us about when life begins…
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Soooo, the answer is to say nothing? How ’bout them? Will they, also, then, say nothing, or will they continue to say something about it while we remain silent?
The Word of God says that those are born again MUST speak up. I, for one, intend to do that. I don’t care whether everybody else is sitting down. I will stand up. I will stand on the side of the Lord.



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 28, 2009 at 5:30 am


those are born again — – >those who are born again



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 28, 2009 at 5:33 am


Rich
October 27, 2009 11:37 PM
If Planned Parenthood committed fraud, and I am guessing they did, that would not invalidate the merit of the overall efforts of Planned Parenthood.
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You mean, like, the merit of making the child pay for the “crime” of the parents? What merit is there in that??



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 28, 2009 at 5:41 am


Boris
October 27, 2009 9:11 PM
… fetuses are not children.
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So, when ARE they children? What’s THE standard for ALL children?



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Your Name

posted October 28, 2009 at 4:43 pm


Well Katie Angel, regardless of your feelings about giving people the right to choose to discard children through abortion, they are still our posterity.
Given our constitutional agreement, it would indeed include defending those posterity children despite their age and location. Thus giving them equal right as you and I. Nothing personal about your opinion other than letting others end life of children is indeed murder. I keep the facts straight regardless if you do or if somebody does not.
Mrs. Incredible



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 28, 2009 at 8:12 pm


So, Boris, when does one become a child? Conception? One second before birth? Birth? Three years old? When YOU say so? What??
What’s the standard that applies to all at all times? We need to know this so that we can apply Rights to those who should have them. You want all who are entitled to Rights to get them, don’t you? Well, we need to know when those Rights are effective. When is that?
Jefferson, in the Declaration of Independence, says that we are endowed with Rights at the moment we are created. When are we created? Conception, isn’t it? The people of Jefferson’s time assumed that one is created at the time the woman is pregnant.
So, when, in YOUR world, is a woman pregnant? Conception? When the woman says so? When the doctor says so? When YOU say so?
Can one get Rights a little at a time, or do they get them all at once?
Aside from Rights, can the law apply to one who doesn’t specifically qualify for constitutional Rights, as in inheritance law which says that, beginning at conception, the unborn child has “future interests,” and, therefore, is treated as a person — that is, he is what the law calls a “jural person,” just like a corporation?



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 28, 2009 at 8:15 pm


You people want intellectualism. Well, there it is. Jump on it, Boris.



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 28, 2009 at 8:18 pm


We know that Boris and the Boris-led people are choking on those questions.



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 28, 2009 at 8:31 pm


Your Name
October 28, 2009 4:43 PM
Well Katie Angel, regardless of your feelings about giving people the right to choose to discard children through abortion, they are still our posterity.
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Yes, and the Constitution of the United States, in the Preamble, says, “[A]nd secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our posterity…” To WHAT?? Yes, “our Posterity.” Our posterity cannot enjoy the Blessings of Liberty unless our posterity survives.
Those who claim to be homosexual are fond of saying that they should be allowed to discover and live out their potentialities. Well, don’t they also think that unborn children have potentialities and should be allowed to discover and live out THEIR potentialities, too?? Or should discovering and living out potentialities be reserved only for those to say they are homosexual?



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Boris

posted October 28, 2009 at 10:29 pm


Incredible:
So, Boris, when does one become a child? Conception? One second before birth? Birth? Three years old? When YOU say so? What??
Boris says: The law says when it can live independent of the woman. Your Bible says that God appoints the rulers who make the laws and it demands you obey those laws. So stand down Incredible. Obey your paper idol.
What’s the standard that applies to all at all times? We need to know this so that we can apply Rights to those who should have them. You want all who are entitled to Rights to get them, don’t you? Well, we need to know when those Rights are effective. When is that?
Boris says: If someone has a claim to a right to live they need to be able to make that claim them self. In other words they have to have some sort of independent life of their own. A fetus is only able to live because it is attached to the womb of a woman so any claim to a “right” to live must necessarily be at the expense of the woman. This isn’t true of anyone else.
Jefferson, in the Declaration of Independence, says that we are endowed with Rights at the moment we are created. When are we created? Conception, isn’t it? The people of Jefferson’s time assumed that one is created at the time the woman is pregnant.
Boris says: Jefferson said no such thing. You automatically discredit yourself when you make absurd claims like that. Abortions were not only legal they were openly advertised during and after the time the Constitution was written. If the people of that time held the same views as you then why did the people of that time make abortions legal?
So, when, in YOUR world, is a woman pregnant? Conception? When the woman says so? When the doctor says so? When YOU say so?
Boris says: Whether or not fetuses are declared persons form a legal perspective is irrelevant. A woman could still legally assert the right to control her body such that even if the fetus is a person, it has no legal claim to use her body. No adult can claim a right to be hooked up to someone’s body. So why should a fetus be given that right?
Can one get Rights a little at a time, or do they get them all at once?
Boris says: A fetus cannot be given rights that conflict with a woman’s rights. Rights must be considered as a whole. A fetus does not have the right to be inside a woman, it is only there by her permission. Permissions are not rights. That’s the law.
Aside from Rights, can the law apply to one who doesn’t specifically qualify for constitutional Rights, as in inheritance law which says that, beginning at conception, the unborn child has “future interests,” and, therefore, is treated as a person — that is, he is what the law calls a “jural person,” just like a corporation?
Boris says: Try taking a dependency deduction on your wife’s third-trimester fetus and see what the IRS says. That should answer your question. Now let’s see who really chokes on hard questions shall we?



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 28, 2009 at 11:04 pm


Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
Incredible:
So, Boris, when does one become a child? Conception? One second before birth? Birth? Three years old? When YOU say so? What??
Boris says: The law says when it can live independent of the woman.
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You can live independent of the woman in the first minutes after conception.
What does the law say about the amount of time it must live independent of the woman to be a child? One second? One minute? One hour? What?
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
Your Bible says that God appoints the rulers who make the laws and it demands you obey those laws.
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The Word of God says that He appoints Godly rulers, when He does. Not all rulers are Godly.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
So stand down Incredible.
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No. Now what?
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
Obey your paper idol.
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I have no such thing.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
What’s the standard that applies to all at all times? We need to know this so that we can apply Rights to those who should have them. You want all who are entitled to Rights to get them, don’t you? Well, we need to know when those Rights are effective. When is that?
Boris says: If someone has a claim to a right to live they need to be able to make that claim them self [sic].
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Those who cannot speak for themselves may speak through a guardian ad litem. Since the state is charged with protecting life, the State must protect that life.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
In other words they have to have some sort of independent life of their own.
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That life is independent from the first moments after conception.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
A fetus is only able to live because it is attached to the womb of a woman…
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Not so. It may live, outside the womb, right after conception. It may not live long, but it lives.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
… so any claim to a “right” to live must necessarily be at the expense of the woman.
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There is no expense to the woman who chooses elective abortion, except to her social life. That is not a reason to kill another person.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
Jefferson, in the Declaration of Independence, says that we are endowed with Rights at the moment we are created. When are we created? Conception, isn’t it? The people of Jefferson’s time assumed that one is created at the time the woman is pregnant.
Boris says: Jefferson said no such thing.
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He did, too. In the Declaration of Independence.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
You automatically discredit yourself when you make absurd claims like that.
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Except that all anybody needs to do is read the Declaration of Independence to find it there.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
Abortions were not only legal they were openly advertised during and after the time the Constitution was written. If the people of that time held the same views as you then why did the people of that time make abortions legal?
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What made it legal?
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
So, when, in YOUR world, is a woman pregnant? Conception? When the woman says so? When the doctor says so? When YOU say so?
Boris says: Whether or not fetuses are declared persons form a legal perspective is irrelevant.
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Tell that to Blacks when, last century, they were told they were not persons.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
A woman could still legally assert the right to control her body such that even if the fetus is a person, it has no legal claim to use her body.
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Except that, if the unborn is a person, what was thought to be the woman’s undue burden all of a sudden becomes a due burden. No one is allowed to kill another person for their own convenience.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
No adult can claim a right to be hooked up to someone’s body.
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The unborn person is not an adult.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
So why should a fetus be given that right?
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Cuz she is the guardian of an incompetent. Having had sex and taken that risk, she assumed the risk. She assumes the responsibility for another life.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
Can one get Rights a little at a time, or do they get them all at once?
Boris says: A fetus cannot be given rights that conflict with a woman’s rights.
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Society does this all the time. If the unborn child as a person, the woman’s burden is not undue, rather due.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
Rights must be considered as a whole.
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And, so, a person has the right to Due Process.since the unborn child as a person, and ALL persons are protected by the Constitution, the woman’s burden is due.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
A fetus does not have the right to be inside a woman…
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It is a self-evident Right of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Jefferson recognized it. No surprise that you don’t.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
… it is only there by her permission.
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Yes, she may choose to violate the Rights of the unborn child to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, the Right explore his own potentialities.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
Permissions are not rights.
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Permissions must align themselves with the law. The law says that the unborn child is treated as a person — that is, he is a jural person.
California officials have arrested a man suspected of murdering an unborn child. For that to happen, the unborn child must be considered a person.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
Aside from Rights, can the law apply to one who doesn’t specifically qualify for constitutional Rights, as in inheritance law which says that, beginning at conception, the unborn child has “future interests,” and, therefore, is treated as a person — that is, he is what the law calls a “jural person,” just like a corporation?
Boris says: Try taking a dependency deduction on your wife’s third-trimester fetus and see what the IRS says.
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Deduction for what? No clothes. No food. The mother is nourished by the same food that nourishes the unborn child. When her clothes warm her, they warm the unborn child.
What need does the unborn child have that the mother doesn’t cover, that is necessary for the IRS to cover?
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
That should answer your question.
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You gave answers to my questions, but didn’t answer them.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
Now let’s see who really chokes on hard questions shall we?
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So far, you’re the one who’s choking on them.



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 28, 2009 at 11:46 pm


Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
Obey your paper idol.
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What “paper idol”? You making things up again… still?



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 28, 2009 at 11:56 pm


So, Boris, tell us what Jefferson means, in the Declaration of Independence, where he says that we are created, by God, and endowed, by God, with the Rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, that this is self-evident. Tell us when we are created. Must the creation be finished to 100% before we can call it “creation”? When, then, is it finished? Is it finished at conception when all the pieces are in place for growth?
We need to know this so that we can assign Rights to those the Constitution says gets them. You don’t wanna deny anybody their Rights, do you? Unless we know, all of us must feel that the job isn’t done until everybody who deserves Rights gets them. Or are you now gonna engage in age discrimination to deny these very young their Rights?



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 28, 2009 at 11:57 pm


Please tell us, Boris, when is a woman pregnant? Conception? When she says so? When the doctor says so? When YOU say so?



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Mr. Incredible

posted October 29, 2009 at 12:01 am


You must understand, Boris, that it’s confusing to people when somebody who claims to be soooooo intelligent balks at these questions, then excuses himself for balking.



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jimbino

posted October 29, 2009 at 11:34 am


Boris,
Arguments to add to your arsenal:
1. There are moral imperatives that need not be reflected in law. One glaring example is the Commandment to “Honor thy father and thy mother.” No American has ever paid a legal penalty for cursing both his mother and his father, and nowadays, at least, you can even sleep in on the Sabbath.
2. The Declaration of Independence, like the Bible, is NOT controlling law in this country. What any of the founding fathers might have said or written can, along with congressional deliberations and signing statements and the like, be considered in attempting to interpret ambiguous law, as can Webster’s International Dictionary. But if a statute is unambiguous, they need not be considered at all. (The ironic thing is that Incredible fundamentalists take the Bible literally, having no interest in exegesis that involves collateral investigation into the minds and lives of God, Jesus, Paul or Moses.)
3. The fact that a woman’s plight when attacked by an unwanted fetus is complicated by her having participated in sex is irrelevant for several reasons: First, that she might not have consented; second, that she took all reasonable precautions but the rubber broke; third, once having consented to being touched, one has the right to terminate that touching at any time, else assault can be charged and self-defense, even that necessarily leading to homicide (and, perforce, feticide) legitimately undertaken.



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Boris

posted October 29, 2009 at 3:55 pm


You can live independent of the woman in the first minutes after conception.
Boris says: So?
What does the law say about the amount of time it must live independent of the woman to be a child? One second? One minute? One hour? What?
Boris says: Look it up for yourself as soon as you learn how to read and don’t have to have someone else read for you and type your posts.
The Word of God says that He appoints Godly rulers, when He does. Not all rulers are Godly.
Boris says: Where is that stated in the Bible exactly?
I have no such thing.
Boris says: Does the Bible have any authority?
Those who cannot speak for themselves may speak through a guardian ad litem. Since the state is charged with protecting life, the State must protect that life.
Boris says: The state isn’t charged with protecting potential life though and a fetus is a potential life.
That life is independent from the first moments after conception.
Boris says: How so? A fetus cannot live unless attached to the womb of a woman after it is conceived. So it isn’t independent.
Not so. It may live, outside the womb, right after conception. It may not live long, but it lives.
Boris says: Sure a one- month old fetus will live outside the womb. ROFL!
There is no expense to the woman who chooses elective abortion, except to her social life. That is not a reason to kill another person.
Boris says: Abortion is not killing another person no matter how many times you say it. Why don’t you sing it, chant it or pray it? Hahaha
Jefferson, in the Declaration of Independence, says that we are endowed with Rights at the moment we are created. When are we created? Conception, isn’t it? The people of Jefferson’s time assumed that one is created at the time the woman is pregnant.
Boris says: Jefferson said nothing about any moments. You’re just a liar Incredible and a very bad one at that. Again why did the people of Jefferson’s time make abortions legal and openly advertise them? Don’t avoid this question again. Answer it loser.
Boris says: Jefferson said no such thing.
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He did, too. In the Declaration of Independence.
Boris says: Supply the exact passage where he said this.
Except that all anybody needs to do is read the Declaration of Independence to find it there.
Boris says: Well it isn’t there and you KNOW it too. You’re just reading things into the document to promote your particular religious delusions and the lies you use to support them.
What made it legal?
Boris says: The people you claim believed as you do. They didn’t obviously. But none of the claims you make are true. You’re a pathological liar for Jesus.
Tell that to Blacks when, last century, they were told they were not persons.
Boris says: Yes the Constitution a document you claim was written by Christians. Oops stepped in something stinky again didn’t you? ROFL!
Except that, if the unborn is a person, what was thought to be the woman’s undue burden all of a sudden becomes a due burden. No one is allowed to kill another person for their own convenience.
Boris says: A fetus isn’t a person. How come our soldiers kill people then? Why it’s for the convenience of people just like you. Slam! ROFL!
The unborn person is not an adult.
Boris says: The unborn are not persons they are potential persons.
Cuz she is the guardian of an incompetent. Having had sex and taken that risk, she assumed the risk. She assumes the responsibility for another life.
Boris says: Not according to the law.
Boris says: A fetus cannot be given rights that conflict with a woman’s rights.
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Society does this all the time. If the unborn child as a person, the woman’s burden is not undue, rather due.
Boris says: Not according to the law.
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And, so, a person has the right to Due Process.since the unborn child as a person, and ALL persons are protected by the Constitution, the woman’s burden is due.
Boris
October 28, 2009 10:29 PM
A fetus does not have the right to be inside a woman…
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It is a self-evident Right of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Jefferson recognized it. No surprise that you don’t.
Boris says: Jefferson never mentioned fetuses but he paid for many abortions himself. Explain that.
Yes, she may choose to violate the Rights of the unborn child to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, the Right explore his own potentialities.
Boris says: The unborn have no rights.
Permissions must align themselves with the law. The law says that the unborn child is treated as a person — that is, he is a jural person.
Boris says: What law says that? A law you fabricated in your twisted uneducated dishonest mind. No such law exists.
California officials have arrested a man suspected of murdering an unborn child. For that to happen, the unborn child must be considered a person.
Boris says: Wrong.
Deduction for what? No clothes. No food. The mother is nourished by the same food that nourishes the unborn child. When her clothes warm her, they warm the unborn child.
What need does the unborn child have that the mother doesn’t cover, that is necessary for the IRS to cover?
You gave answers to my questions, but didn’t answer them.
Boris says: My answers have destroyed all your positions and made a mockery of them. The only person on this blog who won’t admit that is you. But you know it’s true. Wallow in defeat for a while loser. You’ve never won and argument or made one valid point on this blog and you never will. You are the laughingstock of this blog and you know it.
So far, you’re the one who’s choking on them.
Boris says: No one believes that even you.
What “paper idol”? You making things up again… still?
Boris says: The Buybull.
So, Boris, tell us what Jefferson means, in the Declaration of Independence, where he says that we are created, by God, and endowed, by God, with the Rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, that this is self-evident. Tell us when we are created. Must the creation be finished to 100% before we can call it “creation”? When, then, is it finished? Is it finished at conception when all the pieces are in place for growth?
Boris says: All the pieces are not in place for growth at conception and if you knew anything about the subjt you wouldn’t make such a stupid statement. No wait, you’re Mr. Incredible. You make statements that you know are false. You’re Christian and all Christians are liars.
Please tell us, Boris, when is a woman pregnant? Conception? When she says so? When the doctor says so? When YOU say so?
Boris says: When the law says so. Get used to it loser.
You must understand, Boris, that it’s confusing to people when somebody who claims to be soooooo intelligent balks at these questions, then excuses himself for balking.
Boris says: I answered your questions and destroyed all your contentions. You repeated questions that had already been answered satisfactorily, a typical Christian ploy.



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posted October 29, 2009 at 4:30 pm


Jimbino good points. They beat the one at the top of Mr. Incredible’s head no doubt.



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posted October 29, 2009 at 5:18 pm


Bless his little pointy head, he believes life begins at conception when the law says at birth. But he lives by a “higher” law, …and he’s entitled. Where he goes awry is when he insists that everyone live by his interpretations of biblical passage. I’m glad such is not the case, I much prefer the U.S. Constitution. I’m free to decide whether or not I can get zapped by demononic curses on Halloween candy! I’m free to decide whether or not to become a parent because I committed the sex act! (Or would be, if I was female.)



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posted October 29, 2009 at 6:57 pm


“There is a sort of transcendental ventriloquy through which men can be made to believe that something which was said on earth came from heaven.” Georg Christoph Lichtenberg
“We’ve had this book [the Bible] analyzed and it reads like the ramblings of a drugged horse. The question tonight – is God confused like his prating truth pimps, or is he dead?” – Chris Morris
“The essence of Christianity is told to us in the Garden of Eden story. The subtext is, All the suffering you have is because you wanted to find out what was going on. You could be in the garden of Eden if you had just kept your bleeping mouth shut and hadn’t asked any questions… ‘Get smart and I’ll bleep you over,’ sayeth the Lord. Is this not an absolutely anti-intellectual religion?” – Frank Zappa
“The Bible tells us to be like God, and then on page after page it describes God as a mass murderer. This may be the single most important key to the political behavior of Western civilization.” – Robert Anton Wilson
“It ain’t the parts of the Bible that I can’t understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand.” – Mark Twain
“More than two hundred death penalties are gone from the law books, but the text that authorized them remains.” – Mark Twain
“If the evidence supports the historical accuracy of the gospels, where is the need for faith? And if the historical reliability of the gospels is so obvious, why have so many scholars failed to appreciate the incontestable nature of the evidence?” – Robert W. Funk
“The Christian community continues to exist because the conclusions of the critical study of the Bible are largely withheld from them.” Hans Conzelmann (1915-1989), German New Testament scholar.
“The Bible is a mine rich in the ore of cognitive dissonance.” – Delos B. Mckown



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posted October 31, 2009 at 4:35 pm


Boris: The law state that a child is or our posterity when they can live independently from a women? They still need care dependent of a women when they are born outside of the womb. What is the difference? Size and location?
Or, the ability for somebody to give the infant care when needed to survive?
Mrs. Incredible



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posted October 31, 2009 at 4:47 pm


Nice civil discussion esp the christian. not



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posted October 31, 2009 at 10:34 pm


A nice little collection of wit and wisdom, Boris, have fun answering Mrs. Incredible, heh-heh.



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posted November 1, 2009 at 12:36 am


Mrs. Incredible
If God is all-powerful and God is all good and everything God does is good and God wants humans to be good then if humans imitate God, who is all-good, then humans will be good. God created the human reproductive system. At least 25% of fertilized human eggs are spontaneously aborted. This makes God the world’s biggest abortionist. So humans should have more abortions.



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Your Name

posted November 2, 2009 at 2:17 pm


Just maybe those babies which were miscarried were caused by something in the women or male reproductive organs caused by genital defective situations unknown to you or I. Murder by
God? I think not.
Mrs. Incredible



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posted November 2, 2009 at 8:35 pm


Ms. Incredibly Niave:
What do you call drowning the entire human race including pregnant women, innocent children, animals and even plants? What do you call killing every first-born Egyptian child and animal all on one night? Murder by God perhaps? I think so. What do you call it may I ask?



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posted November 4, 2009 at 6:08 am


Boris
November 2, 2009 8:35 PM
Ms. Incredibly Niave:
What do you call drowning the entire human race including pregnant women, innocent children, animals and even plants? What do you call killing every first-born Egyptian child and animal all on one night? Murder by God perhaps?
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No, rather punishment by God Who warned them. they had the chance to review whether they got busy with the program. They chose their own way and were not protected by His Glory. You believe in the Right to choose, no?



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posted November 4, 2009 at 6:14 am


Boris
November 1, 2009 12:36 AM
Mrs. Incredible
If God is all-powerful..
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He is.
Boris
November 1, 2009 12:36 AM
… and God is all good…
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He is.
Boris
November 1, 2009 12:36 AM
… and everything God does is good…
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It is.
Boris
November 1, 2009 12:36 AM
… and God wants humans to be good…
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Uh-oh. Glitch.
“Good” is not the standard.
Boris
November 1, 2009 12:36 AM
Then if humans imitate God, who is all-good, then humans will be good.
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Not true. Men cannot be good enough. “Good” is not the standard.
Boris
November 1, 2009 12:36 AM
God created the human reproductive system. At least 25% of fertilized human eggs are spontaneously aborted. This makes God the world’s biggest abortionist.
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Not true.
Imperfection in the human body is the result of sin in the world. Man, not God, brought sin into the world.
Boris
November 1, 2009 12:36 AM
So humans should have more abortions.
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posted November 4, 2009 at 6:52 am


Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
You can live independent of the woman in the first minutes after conception.
Boris says: So?
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YOU’RE the one who said the pre-born child cannot live without his mother. Of course, as I say, he can.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
What does the law say about the amount of time it must live independent of the woman to be a child? One second? One minute? One hour? What?
Boris says: Look it up for yourself as soon as you learn how to read and don’t have to have someone else read for you and type your posts.
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Of course, again, you try to dodge the question cuz you know the answer.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
The Word of God says that He appoints Godly rulers, when He does. Not all rulers are Godly.
Boris says: Where is that stated in the Bible exactly?
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Throughout the Word of God.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
I have no such thing.
Boris says: Does the Bible have any authority?
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Which “Bible”?
Those who cannot speak for themselves may speak through a guardian ad litem. Since the state is charged with protecting life, the State must protect that life.
Boris says: The state isn’t charged with protecting potential life though and a fetus is a potential life.
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Inheritance law says that the unborn child, beginning at conception, retains what it calls “future interests.” That means that the unborn child is treated as a person — that is, he is what the law calls a “jural person.”
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
That life is independent from the first moments after conception.
Boris says: How so?
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The unborn child has his own chromosomes, his own blood, respiratory and nervous system, even if in development. Everything about the unborn child is independent of the mother. He is dependent upon the mother only for food and protection.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
A fetus cannot live unless attached to the womb of a woman after it is conceived.
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Not so. He can live for some length of time. It may be a minute, or in our, or several hours. What time limit defines “life”?
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
It may live, outside the womb, right after conception. It may not live long, but it lives.
Boris says: Sure a one- month old fetus will live outside the womb. ROFL!
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An unborn child just conceived can live outside the womb even if only for a minute. However, during that minute, it lives.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
There is no expense to the woman who chooses elective abortion, except to her social life. That is not a reason to kill another person.
Boris says: Abortion is not killing another person no matter how many times you say it.
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The unborn child, according to the law, is treated as a person.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
Jefferson, in the Declaration of Independence, says that we are endowed with Rights at the moment we are created. When are we created? Conception, isn’t it? The people of Jefferson’s time assumed that one is created at the time the woman is pregnant.
Boris says: Jefferson said nothing about any moments.
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He said that we are endowed with Rights when we are created. “When we are created” is a moment. When is that?
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
You’re just a liar Incredible and a very bad one at that.
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No one who reports what God says through Christ can be a liar cuz God isn’t a liar and neither is Christ. So, Romans 8:1 [KJV].
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
Again why did the people of Jefferson’s time make abortions legal and openly advertise them? Don’t avoid this question again. Answer it loser.
Boris says: Jefferson said no such thing.
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I know.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
He did, too. In the Declaration of Independence.
Boris says: Supply the exact passage where he said this.
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Do your own homework.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
Except that all anybody needs to do is read the Declaration of Independence to find it there.
Boris says: Well it isn’t there and you KNOW it too.
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It IS there, and I know that.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
You’re just reading things into the document to promote your particular religious delusions and the lies you use to support them.
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I don’t have to read anything into the document. It’s already there, and it’s Jefferson’s words, not mine.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
You’re a pathological liar for Jesus.
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Romans 8:1 [KJV]
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
Tell that to Blacks when, last century, they were told they were not persons.
Boris says: Yes the Constitution a document you claim was written by Christians.
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It was.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
Except that, if the unborn is a person, what was thought to be the woman’s undue burden all of a sudden becomes a due burden. No one is allowed to kill another person for their own convenience.
Boris says: A fetus isn’t a person.
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Inheritance law treats the unborn as persons. They are as good as persons.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
How come our soldiers kill people then?
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Self defense of the country.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
The unborn person is not an adult.
Boris says: The unborn are not persons they are potential persons.
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They are persons.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
Cuz she is the guardian of an incompetent. Having had sex and taken that risk, she assumed the risk. She assumes the responsibility for another life.
Boris says: Not according to the law.
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Yes, according to the law.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
Boris says: A fetus cannot be given rights that conflict with a woman’s rights.
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Society does this all the time. If the unborn child as a person, the woman’s burden is not undue, rather due.
Boris says: Not according to the law.
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Yes, according to the law. Justice Blackmun said so. Inheritance law conforms to what he said.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
It is a self-evident Right of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Jefferson recognized it. No surprise that you don’t.
Boris says: Jefferson never mentioned fetuses but he paid for many abortions himself. Explain that.
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He said that the Right to life begins when we are created. When is that? When you start answering my questions, I’ll answer yours.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
Yes, she may choose to violate the Rights of the unborn child to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, the Right explore his own potentialities.
Boris says: The unborn have no rights.
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Except in law.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
Permissions must align themselves with the law. The law says that the unborn child is treated as a person — that is, he is a jural person.
Boris says: What law says that?
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Inheritance law, for one.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
A law you fabricated in your twisted uneducated dishonest mind. No such law exists.
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You’re allowed to believe that. What you believe does not match reality, of course. However, you’re allowed to believe it.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
California officials have arrested a man suspected of murdering an unborn child. For that to happen, the unborn child must be considered a person.
Boris says: Wrong.
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You’re allowed to believe that. What you believe doesn’t have to match reality, of course.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
Deduction for what? No clothes. No food. The mother is nourished by the same food that nourishes the unborn child. When her clothes warm her, they warm the unborn child.
What need does the unborn child have that the mother doesn’t cover, that is necessary for the IRS to cover?
You gave answers to my questions, but didn’t answer them.
Boris says: My answers have destroyed all your positions and made a mockery of them.
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Only in your little, imaginary world.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
They said You’ve never won and argument or made one valid point on this blog and you never will.
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None that YOU will believe, anyway.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
You are the laughingstock of this blog and you know it.
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Romans 8:1 [KJV]
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
So far, you’re the one who’s choking on them.
Boris says: No one believes that even you.
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I said it, and, so, I believe it. Is that too hard to understand?
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
What “paper idol”? You making things up again… still?
Boris says: The Buybull.
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No such thing.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
So, Boris, tell us what Jefferson means, in the Declaration of Independence, where he says that we are created, by God, and endowed, by God, with the Rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, that this is self-evident. Tell us when we are created. Must the creation be finished to 100% before we can call it “creation”? When, then, is it finished? Is it finished at conception when all the pieces are in place for growth?
Boris says: All the pieces are not in place for growth at conception…
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They are all in place for growth. Everything the person needs for development is in place at conception.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
… and if you knew anything about the subjt you wouldn’t make such a stupid statement.
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Nevertheless, what I said is true.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
You make statements that you know are false.
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I make statements that I know are true. It doesn’t matter that you believe they are not true. My success doesn’t depend on you.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
You’re Christian…
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That’s one thing you finally got right.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
… and all Christians are liars.
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The Devil tells us that all the time. We don’t listen to him, either. Romans 8:1 [KJV]
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
Please tell us, Boris, when is a woman pregnant? Conception? When she says so? When the doctor says so? When YOU say so?
Boris says: When the law says so.
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Not so. The law says nothing about the point of pregnancy. So, when is a woman pregnant? Conception? When she says so? When the doctor says so? When YOU say so?
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
… get used to it loser.
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Is THAT all you got, lady?
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
You must understand, Boris, that it’s confusing to people when somebody who claims to be soooooo intelligent balks at these questions, then excuses himself for balking.
Boris says: I answered your questions…
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You answered nothing.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
… and destroyed all your contentions.
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You made assertions. You gave answers to questions. You never answered any questions. There’s a difference.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
You repeated questions that had already been answered satisfactorily…
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posted November 5, 2009 at 1:46 pm


Boris destroys Mr. Incredible once and for all to see:
If God is all-powerful..
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He is.
Boris says: 1. Either God can create a stone that he cannot lift, or he cannot create a stone that he cannot lift.
2. If God can create a stone that he cannot lift, then he is not omnipotent.
3. If God cannot create a stone that he cannot lift, then he is not omnipotent.
4. Therefore, God is not omnipotent.
… and God is all good…
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He is.
Boris says: An all-virtuous being cannot exist:
1. God is (by definition) a being than which no greater being can be thought.
2. Greatness includes the greatness of virtue.
3. Therefore, God is a being than which no being could be more virtuous.
4. But virtue overcoming pains and danger.
5. Indeed, a being can only be properly said to be virtuous if it can suffer pain or be destroyed.
6. A God that can suffer pain or is destructible is not one than which no greater being can be thought.
7. For you can think of a greater being, one that is non suffering and indestructible.
8. Therefore, God does not exist.
… and everything God does is good…
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It is.
Boris says:
1. If any being is God, he must be a fitting object of worship.
2. No being could possibly be a fitting object of worship, since worship requires the abandonment of one’s role as an autonomous moral agent.
3. Therefore, there cannot be any being who is God.
“Good” is not the standard.
1. If God exists, then the attributes of God are consistent with evil.
2. The attributes of God are not consistent with the existence of evil.
3. Therefore God does not and cannot exist.
Not true. Men cannot be good enough. “Good” is not the standard.
Boris says: Perfection is the standard then:
1. If God exists, then he is perfect.
2. If God exists, then he is the creator of the universe.
3. If a being is perfect, then whatever he creates must be perfect.
4. But the universe is not perfect.
5. Therefore, it is impossible for a perfect being to be the creator of the universe.
6. Hence, it is impossible for God to exist.
Imperfection in the human body is the result of sin in the world. Man, not God, brought sin into the world.
Boris says: Why did God let sin enter the world?
1. God is (by definition) a being than which no greater being can be thought.
2. Greatness includes the greatness of virtue.
3. Therefore, God is a being than which no being could be more virtuous.
4. But virtue overcoming pains and danger.
5. Indeed, a being can only be properly said to be virtuous if it can suffer pain or be destroyed.
6. A God that can suffer pain or is destructible is not one than which no greater being can be thought.
7. For you can think of a greater being, one that is non suffering and indestructible.
8. Therefore, God does not exist.
May be YOU should have been aborted, huh?
Boris says: I am as much the product of my environment as the DNA of my parents. I could not have been aborted because I did not exist in my mother’s womb. A mass of protoplasm is all that could have been aborted.
YOU’RE the one who said the pre-born child cannot live without his mother. Of course, as I say, he can.
Boris says: Saying something won’t make it so.
Of course, again, you try to dodge the question cuz you know the answer.
Boris says: Yes I know the answer. Abortion is legal in this nation and it will be forever. Choke on that fact for a while loser. ROFL!
Boris says: Where is that stated in the Bible exactly?
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Throughout the Word of God.
Boris says: Name the passages where this is specifically stated.
Boris says: Does the Bible have any authority?
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Which “Bible”?
Boris says: The Bible you claim to have read but haven’t.
Inheritance law says that the unborn child, beginning at conception, retains what it calls “future interests.” That means that the unborn child is treated as a person — that is, he is what the law calls a “jural person.”
Boris says: Then why can this “jural person” be legally aborted then?
The unborn child has his own chromosomes, his own blood, respiratory and nervous system, even if in development. Everything about the unborn child is independent of the mother. He is dependent upon the mother only for food and protection.
Boris says: Not true. Read up on the subject before you make foolish claims that prove you haven’t.
Not so. He can live for some length of time. It may be a minute, or in our, or several hours. What time limit defines “life”?
Boris says: The law. The law that you want changed so women do not have equal rights with men.
An unborn child just conceived can live outside the womb even if only for a minute. However, during that minute, it lives.
Boris says: Then it dies which destroys your position absolutely. But because of your learning disability handicap you will keep making the same stupid argument over and over and over again.
The unborn child, according to the law, is treated as a person.
Boris says: What law? Not according to Roe v Wade.
He said that we are endowed with Rights when we are created. “When we are created” is a moment. When is that?
Boris says: First of all the Declaration of Independence is not a founding document and carries no weight as a law of the land. It’s nothing more than an angry letter to the king of England. The Constitution is a founding document.
No one who reports what God says through Christ can be a liar cuz God isn’t a liar and neither is Christ. So, Romans 8:1 [KJV].
Boris says: God and Christ don’t exist. But the people who believe they do are all liars. Most of them aren’t quite as bad at it as you though, Mr. I’ve done the experiment. Your experiment wasn’t done using scientific method so its results are meaningless.
Boris says: Jefferson said no such thing.
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I know.
Boris says: So you admit you lied.
Do your own homework.
Boris says: No dice. Supply the passage. You can’t because it doesn’t exist. How do you justify all the lies you tell?
It IS there, and I know that.
Boris says: Let’s see you reprint it exactly word for word if it’s really there. This should be no problem if you aren’t lying. But you are and everyone reading this can see what a liar you are and exactly what you have lied about. You’re such a typical Christian. Not one thing you say is true.
I don’t have to read anything into the document. It’s already there, and it’s Jefferson’s words, not mine.
Boris says: Reprint Jefferson’s word then. Gotcha. They aren’t there and we all know this.
You’re a pathological liar for Jesus.
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Romans 8:1 [KJV]
Boris says: Your book of lies is not a defense. It’s a book of lies.
Boris
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
Tell that to Blacks when, last century, they were told they were not persons.
Boris says: Yes the Constitution a document you claim was written by Christians.
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It was.
Boris says: name the founders that you claim were Christians. You won’t because you know I will supply quotes from anyone you name about how much they hated Christianity and that they thought Christians were fools and hypocrites. And you just can’t stand to see the ugly truth about your religion exposed publicly on a blog like this.
Inheritance law treats the unborn as persons. They are as good as persons.
Boris says: The why can they be aborted? ROFL!
How come our soldiers kill people then?
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Self defense of the country.
Many of those opposed to choice have been drawn in that direction because they believe that legalized abortion cheapens human life. We already know about cheapness of human life. Witness Iraq and Afghanistan. You are really all for legalized abortion, but you think it should delayed until the fetuses are about 18 years of age, and then they can be aborted on the battlefield fighting a holy war against a competing religion.
They are persons.
Boris says: Then why can they be aborted?
Yes, according to the law.
Boris says: What law? Name this law.
Boris says: A fetus cannot be given rights that conflict with a woman’s rights.
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Society does this all the time. If the unborn child as a person, the woman’s burden is not undue, rather due.
Boris says: Again, since you didn’t learn this the fist time: Whether the fetus is declared a person from a scientific, religious, or legal perspective, this would not necessarily mean that abortion is wrong. A woman could assert a right to control her body such that even if the fetus is a person, it has no legal claim to use it. Could an adult claim a right to being hooked up to someone’s body? No — it might not be ethical to refuse the use of one’s body to save the life of another, but it couldn’t be forced by the law.
Yes, according to the law. Justice Blackmun said so. Inheritance law conforms to what he said.
Boris says: The why are abortions legal?
He said that the Right to life begins when we are created. When is that? When you start answering my questions, I’ll answer yours.
Boris says: Where did Jefferson say these exact words: “the Right to life begins when we are created.” He didn’t. You are just making that up and we all know this. Even you. What a liar.
Boris says: The unborn have no rights.
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Except in law.
Boris says: Abortion is legal. What law?
Inheritance law, for one.
Boris says: Inheritance law does not have anything to do with abortions.
You’re allowed to believe that. What you believe does not match reality, of course. However, you’re allowed to believe it.
Boris says: I know what the law says. I don’t make up laws that don’t exist the way keep doing.
You’re allowed to believe that. What you believe doesn’t have to match reality, of course.
Boris says: This coming from someone who believes in angels, demons, Satan and a lot of other crazy crapola other people told you about for which there isn’t one shred of evidence. Hahaha
Only in your little, imaginary world.
Boris says: You’re the one living in an imaginary world, believing in things that do not exist.
None that YOU will believe, anyway.
Boris says: Because nothing you say is true. I don’t believe the religious lies of other people. You do.
Romans 8:1 [KJV]
Boris says: Matt 27:52-53 is itself a big fat lie. Defend your lies with your book of lies. ROFL!
I said it, and, so, I believe it. Is that too hard to understand?
Boris says: If you said it we can all bet it isn’t true.
They are all in place for growth. Everything the person needs for development is in place at conception.
Boris says: Not so. The brain cannot even feel pain until the 8th month.
Nevertheless, what I said is true.
Boris says: Nothing you’ve said is true. You don’t know what is true and what isn’t or you wouldn’t be a Christian.
I make statements that I know are true. It doesn’t matter that you believe they are not true. My success doesn’t depend on you.
Boris says: Yes it does. To win an argument you have to convince someone of your point of view. That won’t happen. Conversely you know everything I’ve said is true by the simple fact that you can offer no good rebuttals to my comments. You have to lie to yourself. You’re a pathetic excuse for a human being but a perfect example of Christian dishonesty, ignorance and stupidity.
That’s one thing you finally got right.
Boris says: So you admit you are a member of a religion.
The Devil tells us that all the time. We don’t listen to him, either. Romans 8:1 [KJV]
Boris says: The devil exits only in the empty heads of retards.
Not so. The law says nothing about the point of pregnancy. So, when is a woman pregnant? Conception? When she says so? When the doctor says so? When YOU say so?
Is THAT all you got, lady?
Boris says: Fine example of Christian brotherhood. Two Christians have rejected their Christianity on this blog so far just because they didn’t want to be associated with people like you. How many more atheists will your asinine hate filled comments produce I wonder?
You answered nothing.
Boris says: It is you who has no answers. Yet because you’ve see all your arguments proved false you will desperately waste hours of your time attempting to refute my comments point by point. You cannot let them stand unchallenged because I have made you look so completely foolish and you KNOW it.
You made assertions. You gave answers to questions. You never answered any questions. There’s a difference.
Boris says: Cry me a river little man. There isn’t anyone on this blog who agrees with you. Except the other people you invented. Where’s Harryoutdoors, your other personality? We know what you are up to loser.
“Satisfactorily” only in your little mind.
Boris says: Narrow-minded pin had thinks others have little minds. My mind is for thinking and yours for believing what your cult leaders tell you to. Big difference.



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posted November 5, 2009 at 2:55 pm


As for the deathcare bills:
If tax dollars or any policies which are intended to kill people through Embryonic Stem-Cell or abortion choices, this would be deathcare policies further downgrading our society into what now exist, murder by choice. Thus, going against The U.S. Constitution pertaining to our posterity. Our future generations can not be taken from us through people who have some twisted agenda as to what people to protect and for what people to erase off the planet.
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posted November 5, 2009 at 3:11 pm


Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Boris destroys Mr. Incredible once and for all to see:
If God is all-powerful..
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He is.
Boris says: 1. Either God can create a stone that he cannot lift, or he cannot create a stone that he cannot lift.
2. If God can create a stone that he cannot lift, then he is not omnipotent.
3. If God cannot create a stone that he cannot lift, then he is not omnipotent.
4. Therefore, God is not omnipotent.
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Foolish idiocy. God did not necessarily create the individual stone. He created the stuff from which the stones came.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
An all-virtuous being cannot exist:
1. God is (by definition) a being than which no greater being can be thought.
2. Greatness includes the greatness of virtue.
3. Therefore, God is a being than which no being could be more virtuous.
4. But virtue overcoming pains and danger.
5. Indeed, a being can only be properly said to be virtuous if it can suffer pain or be destroyed.
6. A God that can suffer pain or is destructible is not one than which no greater being can be thought.
7. For you can think of a greater being, one that is non suffering and indestructible.
8. Therefore, God does not exist.
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Manufactured and manipulated human “reasoning” in order to assure a preconceived result.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
1. If any being is God, he must be a fitting object of worship.
2. No being could possibly be a fitting object of worship, since worship requires the abandonment of one’s role as an autonomous moral agent.
3. Therefore, there cannot be any being who is God.
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Fabricated and manipulated human “reasoning” in order to assure a preconceived result.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
1. If God exists, then the attributes of God are consistent with evil.
2. The attributes of God are not consistent with the existence of evil.
3. Therefore God does not and cannot exist.
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Fabricated and manipulated human “reasoning” in order to assure a preconceived result.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Boris says: Perfection is the standard then:
1. If God exists, then he is perfect.
2. If God exists, then he is the creator of the universe.
3. If a being is perfect, then whatever he creates must be perfect.
4. But the universe is not perfect.
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The world is not perfect cuz-a Adam and Eve. They ushered sin into the world.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
5. Therefore, it is impossible for a perfect being to be the creator of the universe.
6. Hence, it is impossible for God to exist.
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Fabricated and manipulated human “reasoning” in order to assure a preconceived result.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Boris says: Why did God let sin enter the world?
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He didn’t. Adam and Eve did by giving authority to the Devil.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
1. God is (by definition) a being than which no greater being can be thought.
2. Greatness includes the greatness of virtue.
3. Therefore, God is a being than which no being could be more virtuous.
4. But virtue overcoming pains and danger.
5. Indeed, a being can only be properly said to be virtuous if it can suffer pain or be destroyed.
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That’s according to imperfect “human reasoning.”
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
6. A God that can suffer pain or is destructible is not one than which no greater being can be thought.
7. For you can think of a greater being, one that is non suffering and indestructible.
8. Therefore, God does not exist.
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Fabricated and manipulated human “reasoning” in order to assure a preconceived result.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Boris says: I am as much the product of my environment as the DNA of my parents.
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What a pantload.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
I could not have been aborted because I did not exist in my mother’s womb.
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God knew you in your mother’s womb. If he knew you in your mother’s womb, you existed.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
A mass of protoplasm is all that could have been aborted.
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God knew you and your mother’s womb. If he knew you in your mother’s womb, you existed. If your mother would have aborted the pregnancy, your life would’ve been aborted.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
me: YOU’RE the one who said the pre-born child cannot live without his mother. Of course, as I say, he can.
Boris says: Saying something won’t make it so.
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It isn’t so cuz I say so. It is so cuz it is so. I have no control over whether it is so. I can report only what is.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Abortion is legal in this nation and it will be forever.
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No, it won’t. SCOTUS says that the State may regulate abortion.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Boris says: Where is that stated in the Bible exactly?
Throughout the Word of God.
Boris says: Name the passages where this is specifically stated.
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Where what is stated?
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Boris says: Does the Bible have any authority?
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Yes.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Which “Bible”?
Boris says: The Bible you claim to have read but haven’t.
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There are many Bibles, but only One Word of God. So, which Bible?
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Inheritance law says that the unborn child, beginning at conception, retains what it calls “future interests.” That means that the unborn child is treated as a person — that is, he is what the law calls a “jural person.”
Boris says: Then why can this “jural person” be legally aborted then?
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Cuz the argument hasn’t been presented yet.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
The unborn child has his own chromosomes, his own blood, respiratory and nervous system, even if in development. Everything about the unborn child is independent of the mother. He is dependent upon the mother only for food and protection.
Boris says: Not true.
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Yes, it is true.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
He can live for some length of time. It may be a minute, or in our, or several hours. What time limit defines “life”?
Boris says: The law.
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No, it doesn’t. In any case, I’m asking you what time limit defines “life.” We understand that you can’t, and won’t, answer.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
An unborn child just conceived can live outside the womb even if only for a minute. However, during that minute, it lives.
Boris says: Then it dies which destroys your position absolutely.
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However, while it is alive, it’s alive. During that time, it’s a person, even by YOUR creepy standard.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
The unborn child, according to the law, is treated as a person.
Boris says: What law? Not according to Roe v Wade.
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Inheritance law says that the unborn child, beginning at conception, enjoys “future interests.” Therefore, he is treated as a person — that is, he is with the law calls a “jural person.”
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
He said that we are endowed with Rights when we are created. “When we are created” is a moment. When is that?
Boris says: First of all the Declaration of Independence is not a founding document…
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Irrelevant. It declares Founding thoughts. It consists of concepts in preparation for the Constitution.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
… and carries no weight as a law of the land.
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Irrelevant. Jefferson, a Founder, expressed certain thoughts. You either agree with those thoughts, or you don’t. Which is it?
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
It’s nothing more than an angry letter to the king of England.
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However, the thoughts and therein express specific principles. It looks as though you disagree with Jefferson’s principles. We get it.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
The Constitution is a founding document.
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So what?
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
No one who reports what God says through Christ can be a liar cuz God isn’t a liar and neither is Christ. So, Romans 8:1 [KJV].
Boris says: God and Christ don’t exist.
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Two YOU, they don’t. That doesn’t mean they don’t exist. You just choose to ignore Them.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
But the people who believe they do are all liars.
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Prove it.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Most of them aren’t quite as bad at it as you though…
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Translation: “You have me up against the ropes.”
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Your experiment wasn’t done using scientific method so its results are meaningless.
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Yes, it was done using the scientific method. Cause and effect. Inputs and results. Observation and testing. Duplicated through the centuries.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Boris says: Jefferson said no such thing.
I know.
Boris says: So you admit you lied.
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There you go manipulating the posts so that you can make it appear as though I said something I didn’t. You’re a filthy liar. What you say is straight out of the pit of Hell.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Do your own homework.
Boris says: No dice. Supply the passage.
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It’s already supplied by Jefferson. All you need to do is look it up.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
You can’t because it doesn’t exist.
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Yes, it does. Is there for all to read.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
How do you justify all the lies you tell?
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I don’t have to justify lies cuz I don’t lie.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
It IS there, and I know that.
Boris says: Let’s see you reprint it exactly word for word if it’s really there.
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It’s already printed for you to see. No need to printed again.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
This should be no problem if you aren’t lying.
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I know, and all you have to do is go and read it.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
But you are and everyone reading this can see what a liar you are and exactly what you have lied about.
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You are so full of it that if you sneezed, although would be left of you would be a pile of clothes on a pair of shoes.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
You’re such a typical Christian.
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God is pleased with me.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Not one thing you say is true.
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Translation: “I can’t get you to come to the dark side where the lie is the truth, bad is good.”
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
I don’t have to read anything into the document. It’s already there, and it’s Jefferson’s words, not mine.
Boris says: Reprint Jefferson’s word then.
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No need to reprint it here. It’s already printed in his own hand. That way you know for sure. Just go and read it.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Gotcha.
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I don’t know who you’re talking to, but it’s not me.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
They aren’t there and we all know this.
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They are there and you all know this.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
You’re a pathological liar for Jesus.
Romans 8:1 [KJV]
Boris says: Your book of lies is not a defense.
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Not in the pit of Hell, anyway.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
It’s a book of lies.
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Which version, translation?
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
October 29, 2009 3:55 PM
Tell that to Blacks when, last century, they were told they were not persons.
Boris says: Yes the Constitution a document you claim was written by Christians.
It was.
Boris says: name the founders that you claim were Christians.
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It’s already been done thousands of times.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
You won’t because you know I will supply quotes from anyone you name about how much they hated Christianity and that they thought Christians were fools and hypocrites.
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Translation: “I will go out and cherry pick quotes that make what I say look good.”
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
And you just can’t stand to see the ugly truth about your religion exposed publicly on a blog like this.
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It hasn’t been done yet.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Inheritance law treats the unborn as persons. They are as good as persons.
Boris says: The why can they be aborted? ROFL!
How come our soldiers kill people then?
Self defense of the country.
Many of those opposed to choice have been drawn in that direction because they believe that legalized abortion cheapens human life. We already know about cheapness of human life. Witness Iraq and Afghanistan. You are really all for legalized abortion, but you think it should delayed until the fetuses are about 18 years of age, and then they can be aborted on the battlefield fighting a holy war against a competing religion.
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More garbage.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
They are persons.
Boris says: Then why can they be aborted?
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Cuz the law hasn’t been presented as part of a legal strategy yet. That’s coming.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Yes, according to the law.
Boris says: What law? Name this law.
Boris says: A fetus cannot be given rights that conflict with a woman’s rights.
Society does this all the time. If the unborn child as a person, the woman’s burden is not undue, rather due.
Boris says: Again, since you didn’t learn this the fist time: Whether the fetus is declared a person from a scientific, religious, or legal perspective, this would not necessarily mean that abortion is wrong. A woman could assert a right to control her body such that even if the fetus is a person, it has no legal claim to use it.
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Not true. If the unborn child as a person, that changes the woman’s undue burden to a due burden. That’s precisely what Blackman said in a Roe.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Could an adult claim a right to being hooked up to someone’s body?
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In effect, as a guardian, yes.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Yes, according to the law. Justice Blackmun said so. Inheritance law conforms to what he said.
Boris says: The why are abortions legal?
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Cuz this law has not been presented as part of the legal strategy… yet.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
He said that the Right to life begins when we are created. When is that? When you start answering my questions, I’ll answer yours.
Boris says: Where did Jefferson say these exact words…
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Irrelevant. My summary of his words is accurate. But I won’t reprint the entire Declaration of Independence here does not defeat my argument. It’s already printed, in his hand. Go on read it.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Boris says: The unborn have no rights.
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Except in law.
Boris says: Abortion is legal. What law?
Inheritance law, for one.
Boris says: Inheritance law does not have anything to do with abortions.
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It has to do with personhood, and, as Blackman said in a Roe, the Court would have had to rule the other way had it not been for the fact that “personhood” was not argued before the Court. So, even he recognized my argument. It’s just that it wasn’t presented. That’s gonna change now that we know that’s the thing to do.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
You’re allowed to believe that. What you believe does not match reality, of course. However, you’re allowed to believe it.
Boris says: I know what the law says.
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You THINK you know what the law says. Turns out you don’t know.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
I don’t make up laws that don’t exist the way keep doing.
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You just ignore the ones that show you to be wrong.
You’re allowed to believe that. What you believe doesn’t have to match reality, of course.
Boris says: This coming from someone who believes in angels, demons, Satan…
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No, I don’t believe in them.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
… and a lot of other crazy crapola other people told you about…
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Other people didn’t tell me. I learned through experience. My experience matched the experience of others. That’s all I need.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
… For which there isn’t one shred of evidence.
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None that you’ll believe, anyway.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Only in your little, imaginary world.
Boris says: You’re the one living in an imaginary world…
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Nah. God is real. Christ is real. There is plenty of evidence that you choose to ignore.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
… believing in things that do not exist.
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Then why do you keep on arguing about things in which you say you don’t believe? That’s stupid, isn’t it? Yes, it is. I thought so.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
None that YOU will believe, anyway.
Boris says: Because nothing you say is true.
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Translation: “I’m afraid that what you say is true.”
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
I don’t believe the religious lies of other people.
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I don’t believe Muslims, either.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
You do.
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No, I don’t. You do, and that’s why you keep arguing about it.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Romans 8:1 [KJV]
Boris says: Matt 27:52-53 is itself a big fat lie.
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God says it happened. Witnesses say it happened. So, it happened.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Defend your lies with your book of lies. ROFL!
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The Devil says that, too. Why do you keep confessing what the Devil says?
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
I said it, and, so, I believe it. Is that too hard to understand?
Boris says: If you said it we can all bet it isn’t true.
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The Devil says that, too. You continue to be a willing mouthpiece for the Devil.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
They are all in place for growth. Everything the person needs for development is in place at conception.
Boris says: Not so.
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It IS so.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
The brain cannot even feel pain until the 8th month.
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Irrelevant. All the pieces are in place for the development of the child. They are in place at conception.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Nevertheless, what I said is true.
Boris says: Nothing you’ve said is true.
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Nothing YOU’VE said is true.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
You don’t know what is true…
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God is true. Christ is true. The Word of God is true. That’s all that’s necessary.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
… and what isn’t…
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What the Devil says isn’t true. What YOU say isn’t true.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
I make statements that I know are true. It doesn’t matter that you believe they are not true. My success doesn’t depend on you.
Boris says: Yes it does.
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No it doesn’t. You have no impact on me. No effect on me. Everything you do and say bounces off me like Superman.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
To win an argument you have to convince someone of your point of view.
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But I don’t need you.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
That won’t happen.
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So what? There are so many others.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Conversely you know everything I’ve said is true by the simple fact that you can offer no good rebuttals to my comments.
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Except that the opposite is true.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
You have to lie to yourself.
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Why should I lie to myself when I got you to lie to me?
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
You’re a pathetic excuse for a human being…
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The Devil says that to me, too. He has no impact on me either.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
but a perfect example of Christian dishonesty, ignorance and stupidity.
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Romans 8:1 [KJV]
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
That’s one thing you finally got right.
Boris says: So you admit you are a member of a religion.
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Again, in your filthy, repulsive dishonesty, you manipulate my posts to make them seem as though they said something I didn’t say.
I’m not a member of a religion. Muslims are members of a religion. Christianity is not a religion. Christianity is a relationship. I have a relationship with God through Christ.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
The Devil tells us that all the time. We don’t listen to him, either. Romans 8:1 [KJV]
Boris says: The devil exits only in the empty heads of retards.
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That’s why you say the things you do.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Not so. The law says nothing about the point of pregnancy. So, when is a woman pregnant? Conception? When she says so? When the doctor says so? When YOU say so?
Is THAT all you got, lady?
Boris says: Fine example of Christian brotherhood.
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I have no fellowship with the unrighteous. You are not my brother and he more than the Devil was Jesus’ brother in the wilderness.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Two Christians have rejected their Christianity on this blog so far just because they didn’t want to be associated with people like you.
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Then they were never Christians if they can be converted back, backslide that easily.
They must take responsibility for their own choice. It has nothing to do with me.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
How many more atheists will your asinine hate filled comments produce I wonder?
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The Word of God, reported by me, never makes atheists. They make themselves.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
You answered nothing.
Boris says: It is you who has no answers.
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I answered all your BS. You, on the other hand, gave answers which is not the same as answering questions.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Yet because you’ve see all your arguments proved false…
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They have not.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
… you will desperately waste hours of your time attempting to refute my comments point by point.
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You don’t know how easy it is.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
You cannot let them stand unchallenged because I have made you look so completely foolish and you KNOW it.
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You’re projecting your own foolishness.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
You made assertions. You gave answers to questions. You never answered any questions. There’s a difference.
Boris says: Cry me a river little man. There isn’t anyone on this blog who agrees with you.
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So what? Even if one person out there who doesn’t even post agrees, the angels sing. I don’t care about the people like you in this blog. You and the others like you are lost.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
Where’s Harryoutdoors, your other personality?
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I’m not him. That won’t stop you, though, from saying that I am. So much for intelligence.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
We know what you are up to loser.
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I’m up to God through Christ.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
“Satisfactorily” only in your little mind.
Boris says: Narrow-minded pin had thinks others have little minds.
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Well, you prove it.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
My mind is for thinking…
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Yeah, thinking lies.
Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
… and yours for believing what your cult leaders tell you to.
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I don’t need to rely on other people to tell me what to believe. God in Christ guides me. The Lord is my shepherd, not you.



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Mr. Incredible

posted November 5, 2009 at 3:14 pm


Your Name
November 5, 2009 2:55 PM
As for the deathcare bills:
If tax dollars or any policies which are intended to kill people through Embryonic Stem-Cell or abortion choices, this would be deathcare policies further downgrading our society into what now exist, murder by choice. Thus, going against The U.S. Constitution pertaining to our posterity. Our future generations can not be taken from us through people who have some twisted agenda as to what people to protect and for what people to erase off the planet.
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That, actually, is a pretty good argument, that the Constitution guarantees something to our posterity and, if we kill babies in the womb, there is no posterity.



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Mr. Incredible

posted November 5, 2009 at 3:19 pm


Boris
November 5, 2009 1:46 PM
… you will desperately waste hours of your time attempting to refute my comments point by point.
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Believe me when I say I know that it takes you WWAAAAYYYY more time and effort to write and post than it takes me.



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Mr. Incredible

posted November 5, 2009 at 3:22 pm


Not only that, I’m posting also, at the same time, in several other blogs.



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Boris

posted November 5, 2009 at 4:53 pm


Not only that, I’m posting also, at the same time, in several other blogs.
Boris says: Get a life. The imaginary one you are leading is going nowhere fast. Hahaha



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ungw

posted November 5, 2009 at 9:50 pm


“Foolish idiocy. God did not necessarily create the individual stone. He created the stuff from which the stones came.”
I thought “God created the heavens and the earth”. I thought “God called the dry ground “land””, which would certainly include stones.
Your interpretation is good story telling, maybe better than the original intent considering todays audience, but the story is always made up to some degree by the story teller. For you to dismiss as “foolish idiocy” the idea that the Bible says God created stones, wrongfully elevates your story, and story telling, above all others. Sorry, it doesn’t work like that.



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posted November 5, 2009 at 11:14 pm


It is not an argument that The Constitution puts forth rights for our posterity, but a fact. It is the insanity of the laws which are in place right now which contradict these ideals for our future children of our nation.
It is interesting to note how I hear national leaders standing up for equal rights and all and I notice at the same time destroying equal rights with government funds to boot. Insane.
So the next time I see a reference to Martin Luther King Jr., I will think of Martin Luther King Jr. and Licoln and what they did for our country. Not the one name dropping their names as if they had the same character.
I admire both President Licoln and Martin Luther King Jr because basically they gave their life for people to have freedom and liberty in our country. You can’t stand for freedom and liberty while killing people at the same time , at their beginning stages of their life.
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posted November 6, 2009 at 12:05 am


What happens to the children born to parents that are not capable to provide for them. Where does the constitution provide then? Is that where social service is born? For all the children that should not have been born and now have parents that are unable to care for them? In an ideal world are children will be born to loving, capable parents. We do not live in an ideal world. What happens to the children that are hurt by their parents inability to provide for them?



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posted November 6, 2009 at 12:43 pm


Fetuses are not people. The people of this country have freedom in greater measure than some would permit. Good. I think that having sex and getting pregnant does not mean you are ready, willing, or able to become a parent. Having that choice provides personal liberty important to many Americans.



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