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Abe Lincoln and the Jesus Creed

posted by xscot mcknight

From Carl Sandburg:
Henry C. Deming, Congressman from Connecticut, reported that when Lincoln was asked why, with his obvious interest in religious matters and his familiarity with the Bible, he did not join a church, Lincoln replied:
When any church will inscribe over its altars, as its sole qualification for membership, the Savior’s condensed statement for the substance of both law and gospel, “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all they heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and thy neighbor as thyself,” that church wil I join with all my heart and soul.
Ah, I love that fellow Illinoisan.



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kerry doyal

posted October 11, 2005 at 10:32 am


As Ab once said “I prefer White Sox”



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discokvn

posted October 11, 2005 at 11:39 am


maybe you should check out sufjan stevens album “come on feel the illinoise” the second in his 50 album trek on each of the states… how can you not help but love a song titled: “THE BLACK HAWK WAR, or How to Demolish an entire civilization and still feel good about yoursel in the morning, or, We Apologize for the Inconvenience but You’re Going to Have to Leave Now, or, ‘I have fought the Big Knives and will continue to fight them until they are off our lands!'”
heck, just saying the song title takes 3.5 minutes… hope we’ve located your new musical hero…
discokvn



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Scot McKnight

posted October 11, 2005 at 3:58 pm


Kerry,
All of Central Illinois, my friend, cheers for the St Louis Cardinals. Abe was a Cardinal fan before there were any.



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John Wiers

posted October 11, 2005 at 6:44 pm


Scot, I used to pastor in Central Illinois and I was as avid a ChiSox fan then as I am now living in Eastern Iowa. Believe it or not, there really were people in Central Illinois who knew see a real baseball team. I was there in 83 when they were in the playoffs and I met some of the under radar Sox fans. Kerry, I’m glad that someone else is speaking up for the Sox besides me on this web site, although I’ve noticed that those taking polls at the right suddenly have begun to see the light a bit.



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kerry doyal

posted October 15, 2005 at 10:44 am


Sox are up 2 games to one . . .



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Scot McKnight

posted October 15, 2005 at 10:57 am


Abe Lincoln, Kerry, was for the Cardinals. Easy to see.



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Mert Hershberger

posted February 17, 2006 at 3:27 pm


Scot,
Illinois aside.
After reading through Luke 16-17, I am not impressed that this summarizes the Law & the Gospel:
Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, & strength.
And also Love your neighbor as yourself.
It seems Jesus there said that:
The 2 commands above were the summ of the Law & the Prophets … & that if you did not understand them, then you would not understand Him. The Good News (ie. a more contemporary rendition of the word “gospel”) seems to be more along the lines of 1 Corinthians 15:1-8.
Jesus died for our sins & was buried according to the Scriptures.
Jesus rose again on the third day according to the Scriptures & [as attested by many people]. Therefore we can freely say: Jesus is both Christ // Messiah & Lord.
The Name of God is in Jesus. He is the Lord who Heals us of our sin. The commands themselves are powerless. The Risen Lord has proven Himself & has all authority, & thus all powers are subject to Him.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
[BTW: I read once in a book critiqueing civil religion that Abe Lincoln was baptized after being in office for a while by a {presbyterian} pastor. … I.e. though long a sideliner, he confessed Christ after undestanding the _Gospel_ more clearly.]
Peace in Christ,
Mert H.



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Scot McKnight

posted February 17, 2006 at 3:37 pm


Mert,
Matt 22 explicitly says the Jesus Creed sums up the whole Law, or that the whole Law hangs from these two commandments. It is Jesus who embodies this: the statements are not the gospel but Jesus.



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