Dave Pelsue embodies Christian cool. With his long hair, tattoos, body piercings, and powerful voice, he could easily fit into any mainstream rock band. But he's also got a strong Christian message to sell with his band Kids in the Way--though not in the in-your-face way popularized in the early days of gospel music. In 2003 the band signed with Flicker Records, a Christian indie label, and the following year released their debut album. "Safe From the Losing Fight" sparked hits "Phoenix With a Heartache" and "We Are,"--which was used on a recent episode of "The Road Rules/ Real World Challenge." Currently out promoting their follow-up album, "Apparitions of Melody" (2005), Dave recently spoke with Beliefnet about the spirit of music, criticism of his unique style, and what he'd tell the pope about "evil" rock music.

When you first started as a band, did your beliefs influence the songs you were writing?

The lyrics were always definitely influenced by our relationships with Jesus and what we believed inside. But I think everything we've written has had that mainstream appeal because we're guys who live in the world and have relationships with girls and stuff like that. We write about our lives and the stuff that happens to us. I think everybody could relate to that.

We never sat down and decided [to] be a Christian rock band or go the mainstream route. When we were deciding what label we wanted to sign with we had to think about that whole Christian/ mainstream thing, but we tried not to think about it too much. I think a lot of people can listen to our music and they're going to know just by the way we live--and we're pretty open in what we believe in--that we're Christian guys, but [our music] is not necessarily church music or Christian music that you're going to hear from a stereotypical Christian band.

A lot of Christian bands out there don't care about--or want--to get mainstream play. What about Kids in the Way?

We didn't set a goal to be successful in the mainstream or the secular market, but our philosophy and mindset is that God is going to take us where He wants us. And our band and everything that we do is completely to glorify God, and He is going to take us to whatever level he wants to take us to. We kind of just have to submit ourselves to that.

I don't like the whole "Christian band" or "Christians in a band" labeling thing--that's all kind of weird to me. I think a lot of kids nowadays--especially with the music that's coming out from Christian bands or guys who are Christian and are in bands--are just listening to music because it's good quality music. If they find out later on that some of the members are Christians or the lyrics are based around relationships and a life influenced by Jesus, then they're accepting that. That's what we do. We're just five guys who happen to believe in Jesus, and we make music at the same time. If we were bankers or plumbers, our work would glorify and represent Jesus, and that's pretty much what our music does as well.

It seems to me that it's cool to be religious now--that religion has made its way into pop culture. Do you find that too?

Definitely more so in the music. I think there's so many bands popping up right now-and I think it speaks a lot for the Christian music industry. Back in the day when Christian music was starting to build and rise, it was such that you could just hear the difference in the quality of the music. So nobody was giving it a chance just because most Christian music really sucked. But nowadays, there are so many people who are finding themselves involved in some sort of religion [and who] are really talented. They're making really good music, and there are kids out there who are listening to bands that they hear on the radio--that are competing with mainstream bands--and they realize or they hear, "Oh, these guys are Christian."

Pope Benedict XVI has said he thinks that rock music is evil. That's also a view held by a lot of very conservative Christians--it doesn't matter what the message is, the loud music, piercings, and tattoos, all scream "devil." If you could make the case for rock music to the pope, what would you say?

It's just music. I don't know how music can contain an entity of evil, or even good for that matter. Instead of saying rock music is evil, or loud music is evil, let's not judge the music, let's not judge the style or the volume, let's look at where it's coming from. I believe there are people out there making music--and I'm not going to call them evil--who can spin a negative influence on people who are living a negative life and making poor choices. Let's look at that. Let's not look at the music that they're making or even anything that they're doing or wearing. It's not about the product that they're making, it's about the person and their heart inside.