When President Donald Trump recently suggested he might not make it to Heaven, the remark sparked both curiosity and concern. However, Jenny Korn, director of the White House Faith Office, says those words were not doubt but humility.

Speaking at the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C., Korn vouched for the president’s faith and character, insisting that prayer has always been central in his administration.

“I have the honor of knowing him now for almost 10 years,” Korn said. “I’ve been in the Oval Office with the cameras and without the cameras. And I want to let you know that those pictures that you see of the president praying in the Oval Office with many pastors around him, it’s real.”

Korn described an atmosphere of faith during her time working alongside Trump. “On camera or off camera, the president welcomes hands-on and welcomes prayer,” she explained. “It’s in his heart, and this is who he is. There’s been prayer in the Oval Office, in the Roosevelt Room, in the East Room, in the Residence, on the grounds, in every part of the White House inside and out.”

Her comments came days after Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One that he was “not sure” he would make it to Heaven. While some interpreted the statement as unsettling, Korn said it was consistent with his unique communication style. “The president has his own language, and I look at it, and I know his language,” Korn said. “It was humility.”

Trump has made headlines before for candid comments about faith, including suggesting in August that ending the Russia-Ukraine war might help him get to Heaven. Such remarks have stirred debate among Christian leaders about salvation and assurance of faith.

But Korn made clear that the president has accepted Jesus Christ as his “Lord and Savior.” While acknowledging that Trump “uses some colorful language” and “might not speak like a Sunday School teacher,” she said he surrounds himself with pastors and faith leaders.

Korn herself worked for Trump on both of his terms and during his 2016 campaign. She recalled how heavy the spiritual opposition sometimes felt in the White House. “I never really understood what spiritual warfare was until I worked for President Trump,” she said. “I would walk into the White House, and I could feel this very dark cloud above me, but there was this space in between my head and that dark cloud, and it was your prayers. It was God. It was Jesus.”

Korn also shared how the White House Faith Office came to life. Alongside longtime Trump pastor Paula White-Cain, she presented the idea directly to the president. “He opened it, he read it, and he’s like ‘I love this,'” she recalled. “He started writing notes of things that he would add to the plan. He didn’t have to call an advisor; he didn’t have to ask anyone else. He just said yes.”

Launched in February, the office is the first of its kind in the West Wing to report directly to the president. Korn noted that while just six staff members work inside the White House, faith directors are now present in every federal department and agency “looking out for people of faith in those departments and those issues.”

For Korn, Trump’s openness to prayer and his establishment of the faith office are evidence of a leader who, despite his unconventional style, values God’s presence in America’s highest halls of power.