A recent episode on the popular “Joe Rogan Experience” (JRE) podcast featured provocative comedian Katt Williams and Rogan discussing a plethora of subjects, including faith and transgenderism. Williams, who has been a very outspoken and at times controversial figure, had previously said Rogan did not want him on his podcast. Rogan addressed the comment by then inviting Williams to his show. What followed was a three hour conversation that has over 14 million views on YouTube, with some calling it “the best 3 hours of this year.”

Williams pushed hard against Rogan’s opinions on faith. “Here’s the thing. The fact that there is a God is the biggest conversation worldwide. But the truth of the matter is, there is more reason for you to believe there is a God than there is for you to not,” he told Rogan. He also told Rogan that the fact that his DNA is “fused” is proof of a “fuser” or creator. “In a no mistakes type of way,” he said. “In a synchronistic sort of a way which flies in the face of the accidental Big Bang nothing from nothing way of thinking and it always has been.” Later, he added that creation would require light, as in the biblical account. “If you were going to describe the beginning of the universe, even if you’re describing the Big Bang, there’s a lot of speculation that that wasn’t necessarily the beginning, that there might be a continuous cycle of these events happening over and over again. But if you were talking about a creation story, you would say in the beginning there was light there was enormous amount of light. It created the entire universe,” he said.

Williams also addressed his comments against men wearing dresses, particularly in the entertainment industry. He called it a “ritual,” a requirement for men to be successful in Hollywood. “Show me one person that ever wore a dress in Hollywood unsuccessfully. That’s how you understand what a ritual is,” he said. He called transgenderism “satanic” and linked it to Baphomet, a half-man, half-goat satanic creature. “20 years ago, I knew that transgenders was gonna be a thing,” he said. “The earliest I had seen that word, transgender, was Baphomet, the transgender,” he said. Rogan has also spoken out against transgenderism, particularly in MMA fights with transgender women (biological men) fighting biological women.

Another point of concern with Williams is the growing use of technology and the people opening themselves up to the mark of the beast, as described in the book of Revelation. Rogan, who left California for Texas during the 2020 pandemic due to California’s tight COVID restrictions, spoke about government control, noting that many people were willing to allow the government to take over their lives. “I’m going to need you to have a digital ID, that digital ID will be attached to a social credit score and we’re going to give you universal basic income. You no longer have to worry about food or shelter, you’ll be taken care of and now you can pursue your dreams,” he said. He then asked Williams if he thought it was the mark of the beast, to which Williams replied the affirmative. Williams also warned about the growing dangers of technology, comparing them to a vampire. “It just shows itself through this desire for the newest, latest innovations that are going to constantly fuel it becoming more and more powerful until one day it tricks you into letting it into [your] head like a vampire.” He said that for a vampire to attack a person, it had to be invited in. “But if you didn’t invite them in for some reason, they weren’t allowed to kill you.”