Tell us a little about Jason's character-as a person and as a Marine.
He was an incredibly charismatic young man. At 22 he was the sort of guy who people just flocked to. Women liked him and he was good-looking and charming. Men wanted to be with him. He was a terrific athlete. He drew people to him. Some people just have that ability, that power. But what made him different from a lot of people who have that kind of magnetism was that he didn't abuse it. And so when he was a Marine, the way he led was through example and through carrying forth his men and taking care of them instead of through intimidation. He led in a way that made people want to follow him and not that made people obliged to follow him.
In a lot of ways Jason was the American Marine-he was a young small-town boy. But in the book you also tell stories of the other Marines around Jason. Why was that part of Jason's story.
The Marine code is that you're fighting for the man to the left of you and the man to the right of you. Jason obviously did that in a very stark way. He gave his life for the men beside him. But everybody out there has a story. Everybody out there is a person with a family and a history and a future. It seemed very important to me that Jason not be simply an isolated hero, not a caricature but a real person surrounded by other real people who have flaws and virtues just like everybody else. I think it was very important to put him in the context of who these guys are, their fears, their hopes, their beliefs. And for many of them, belief is extremely important when they're out there in a foxhole.
Can you speak a little more about the brotherhood that exists in the Marines?
Imagine what Jason did. In the flash of an instant he decided to risk sacrificing himself for the guys who were next to him. When that happens, you don't think "democracy", you don't think "flag" necessarily. You're saying, these are my guys and I'm here to take care of them.
The quote at the beginning of the book by Carl Sandburg ["Valor is a gift. Those having it never know for sure whether they have it till the time comes."] is really telling. This whole idea that you don't know just how much courage you have until suddenly you're tested. All these guys go into boot camp and they're taught how to react to everything. The Marines, in particular, are taught how to react to fire, how to take the initiative, how to attack, all the sort of standard things, and young people are given huge responsibilities. I think it would be very unusual in the Army for somebody of Jason's age to have as much responsibility as he did-leading ten guys. You will find 20 and 21-year olds [in the Marines] who are leading with other men's lives in their hands. They're all trained extremely well, but even so, they face that doubt-how will I do when the moment comes for me? Will I be as brave as the Marines who were in Iwo-Jima? Will I be like the guys who were in Okinawa?
Jason had never really seen combat before until that day. He had been only vaguely under fire during an earlier patrol. And related to the question of how brave am I going to be is, am I going to let down the guys next to me?
A number of the troops [who have been in Iraq] since the invasion initially feared that the reaction to them would be like the reaction that was received by Vietnam vets when they came home. I don't think that was a reasonable fear. America has learned a lot about the treatment of our troops, no matter how you feel about the war. So I think that was an unfounded fear.
A number of the troops that I talked with would ask, "Are we going to get spat on when we get home? Are we going to get shunned by the rest of America?" So there was a fear, at least initially, by some of those guys. After their first tour [when] they came home to a hero's welcome, they realized that that was not a danger anymore--no matter how people feel about the war itself, nobody is taking it out on the troops.