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There’s No Jewish Position on the Iraq War

I don’t think Rabbi Waxman meant to say as much, but just to be clear: there is no Jewish position on the Iraq war. There are good wars, bad wars and complicated wars but there are few if any Jewish or non-Jewish wars. That said, when looking at Iraq certainly in the short term it has been, at best, a wasted war. As a nuclear Iran keeps creeping up on us, we realize what a waste of time, energy, resources, and capital the war in Iraq was. It is not that Saddam was a good man who deserved to be in power, but war is a calculus and it involves not just figuring out who is in clear and immanent danger, but also who is in the most clear and immanent danger.


Yes, it seems the surge has, to some degree, succeeded in creating at least some form of military order. But we are still years away from any sense of governing structure or semblance of a democratic culture. Right now American troops are at best functioning as a dam against powerful sectarian forces. Perhaps that dam can turn into an infrastructure for a more stable democratic culture, but if Saddam’s rule is any blueprint such a situation seems somewhat unlikely. That said, for the foreseeable future American troops will be in Iraq. Though well-meaning, the demand for troop reduction is more an altruistic fantasy on the part of those who wish they could turn back time than a reasonable political position.



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Daniel

posted November 15, 2007 at 8:17 pm


I think you mean “imminent” (as in “threatening”) and not “immanent” (as in “inherent”)



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DeLora

posted November 15, 2007 at 8:18 pm


Considering my husband has recently returned from serving almost 2 years all over Iraq and has shared many positive stories of what actually is happening over there, it is difficult for me to believe that the people of Iraq and the people who are serving in Iraq will agree with your statement: ‘we realize what a waste of time, energy, resources, and capital the war in Iraq was’
It is sad that we have war, but it is sadder when we forget about those who are suffering and have suffered because of evil leaders.



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Aryeh Sax

posted November 16, 2007 at 2:03 pm


We the Jewish people, is not justice our code? Would we walk by a bully, even a killer bully, beating one in the street, possibly to death, and do nothing. Wasted intervention? Even though another bully is getting ready to do the same in the future. Do not stand idly by my brother blood. This is justice, not just the position I am waiting for the bigger threat. This not just a Jewish position, but also moral position of all good people? To stand by and do nothing is complicity.



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Tom Paine

posted November 17, 2007 at 1:32 pm


When something HAPPENS we should do something, but loudmouths should be permitted to be loudmouths without getting bombed.



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Aryeh Sax

posted November 17, 2007 at 5:03 pm


“When something HAPPENS we should do something, but loudmouths should be permitted to be loudmouths without getting bombed.”
This is very true on its face. But, where does being a loudmouth end and something happens begin? Should we wait until the nukes are launched? What of passing bombs to our enemy. Bombs that are being used to kill our troops? This is a delicate balance. Was Hitler a loudmouth? When did Hitler being a loudmouth end? The same of Tojo. Also what of Osama? I am sure the victims of Pearl Harbor of the World Trade Center, wish those loudmouths we bombed first. Preemptive strikes have become the rule. If you don’t use it you may not be able to strike back. This is a different world then in the past, with the mass destruction weapons of today, the first strike may be the only strike. This is even more so for the small land mass countries of the middle east. Like it or not this is it. A delicate balance for sure.



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