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You Got Pwned, Yahweh!

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I know that analyzing a joke makes it lose its humor but that prayer from the McCain Iowa rally is so amazing on so many levels it keeps coming back at me. To recap, Rev. Arnold Conrad, said:

“I would also pray, Lord, that your reputation is involved in all that happens between now and November, because there are millions of people around this world praying to their god–whether it’s Hindu, Buddha, Allah–that his opponent wins, for a variety of reasons…And Lord, I pray that you will guard your own reputation, because they’re going to think that their God is bigger than you, if that happens. So I pray that you will step forward and honor your own name with all that happens between now and election day.”

First, you have the assumption that Obama is the candidate of the non-Christian Gods, which means he’s not only a terrorist-loving anti-American , but anti-Elohim. Earlier accounts had Obama as the anti-Christ, so perhaps being the representative of Islam, Buddhism and Hinduism is a step up.
Then there’s the assertion that when it comes to Godlineess, size does matter.
Most amazing is this notion that the heavens are sort of like a high school cafeteria, with different gods strutting around, trying to burnish their reputations and win over followers. You don’t want to get dissed because once that happens your followers will lose respect. As my teenage son, Joe, might put it, “you got pwned, Yahweh!”
I might think of this as an anomoly except I remembered General William G. “Jerry” Boykin the senior Pentagon counter-terrorism official who recounted the time he chased down a Muslim Somali warlord who was bragging that the Americans would not capture him because Allah would protect him. “My God is bigger than his God. I knew my God was a real God, and his was an idol,” Boykin said.



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J R Dittbrenner

posted October 15, 2008 at 12:30 pm


The good Rev.-Conrad wasn’t, oh well, he worries about God’s reputation when he just lost his.
He would seem to be of the prosperity click of the giv-me, giv-me theology with no regard for the operation Holy Ghost.
It reminds me of the fighter who prays before he goes into the ring to slaughter his opponent. Rest not your reputation on the reputations of others.
Sincerely, J R Dittbrenner



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That Guy

posted October 15, 2008 at 2:51 pm


I would love to think that this is an anomaly, a once off statement of deep ignorance from an individual, but it isn’t.
It is clear that McCain has sold his soul to the same neo-con nut jobs who have run this country in to the ground.
Its time for a new direction. Its time for a real change. Its time for Obama.



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pagansister

posted October 15, 2008 at 2:53 pm


Just sounds like the “my God is better than your God” belief that goes on in a lot of cultures. After all, aren’t all gods different from other people’s gods? If there is actually a higher power…called by whatever name, I figure she is actually 1 Being, not different ones….not 1 for the Jews, 1 for the Christians, 1 for the Muslims etc. Also, isn’t the Rev. getting kind of pushy, giving advice to “GOD!” to “guard his reputation?” What kind of nonsense is that?



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Mary Searles

posted October 15, 2008 at 4:09 pm


Listen, as far as the Lord’s reputation is concerned nothing passes
before God that He doesn’t approved of first so I wouldn’t worry about it if I were you. He has to approve of everything and this means you and Him, remember He even approved of leaders like Hitler
to take power for awhile. Terrible as it seems, you and I don’t know
what’s coming next, you should prayer and seek the perfect will
of your Father that’s should be your focus.
Mary



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Yid

posted October 15, 2008 at 5:24 pm


remember He even approved of leaders like Hitler
to take power for awhile.
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Um WHAT???? So “God” was ok for a man to repress “The people of the Book” as long as he didn’t kill them?? I hope that is not indicative of the belief of Christians in general otherwise “God” help us all….



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Phill

posted October 15, 2008 at 5:37 pm


There’s nothing in the Bible that implies God makes a checklist like Santa Claus as far as what’s allowed to happen on Earth. If that were the case, it would be Heaven. This Reverend is like some pro athlete who says he won the championship because Jesus liked him best, and then proceeds to (after the game) go out clubbing with his biddies and hoes and pimp slappin’ folks.
I find it despicable the way people take 3 or 4 words in the Bible, remove context, and distort them to suit their agenda or their already ingrained, indoctrinated and programmed opinions.
Some “Christians” believe God allowed Hitler to become a warlord so that Israel could be reformed to allow Jesus to return. If anything, that’s dissing God’s creativity. That’s saying God isn’t clever enough to come up with a better idea for rebuilding Israel than a Holocaust. Kind of like how some people think God isn’t clever enough to organize something as complex as evolution or gravity.
Now, if these same Christians believe exterminating Jews is necessary for Jesus to come back, that would explain the profoundly dysfunctional belief that God wanted Hitler to start a Holocaust, and would definitely explain the vast history of Christians trying to exterminate Jews in Europe.



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pagansister

posted October 15, 2008 at 9:32 pm


That is the first time I’ve heard that GOD approved of Hitler, Mary S. The purpose of that would be what? Would it be as Phil mentioned, so Israel could be formed?
If that is the case, what would be God’s purpose in the other dictators and their reigns of genocide? Darfur, Bosnia, etc. Is there a purpose in those murders and killings? Who benefits? Is another nation going to be formed?
The assertion that a loving god would approve of horrible leaders that kill those they find unacceptiable, for their own reasons…is,IMO, ridiculous.



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