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We’ll be attacked if Obama is president:(via)If everyone is this certain that we’ll be attacked if we elect him, then why would we? It doesn’t make sense. This would make a good campaign ad, McCain should jump on it and Obama can’t say to much about it since his running mate has admitted that we’ll be attacked if he’s the president. No complaining about fear-mongering because he’s own running mate is the fear-monger.BTW, do you think Biden’s been sent to re-education camp today for being honest and admitting that they’ll fail the test?



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Minnie

posted October 21, 2008 at 1:29 pm


Another post without any substance. What a surprise.
I still seriously question why Beliefnet keeps this pathetic excuse for a blog around. Surely there is a better Reformed blogger out there somewhere who could offer something intelligent and rational instead of just more of the same mindless political partisanship.



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Scott

posted October 21, 2008 at 2:20 pm


Umm… Obama will be the moral death of our nation. He has repeatedly stated he is pro-choice (more like pro-abortion) and he fully supports same-sex marriage to name a few. And on top of that, as he is one of the most liberal active senator, he will certainly chose Supreme Court Justices who will further increase the moral decay of our country.
McCain isn’t that much better, but at least he is willing to chose more conservative Justices who will NOT support gay marriage and finally strike down one of the most dumbest decisions our highest court has ever made -Roe vs Wade.
Obama is a socialist through and through.



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Minnie

posted October 21, 2008 at 2:36 pm


Obama is neither a saint nor the anti-Christ. People *really* need to get some perspective on the man. Some folks, especially on the right, are truly becoming unhinged at the prospect of an Obama presidency, and it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so misguided.
The world didn’t end when Bill Clinton was in office, and it won’t end if Obama is elected in two weeks. Take a few deep breaths and join the rest of us back to the real world. The “moral death of our nation”? LOL! It must really be awful to live in such a sad, paranoid world.



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Scott R.

posted October 21, 2008 at 2:36 pm


Just so no one confuses that Scott with this one.
Yes on pro-choice.
Yes on SSM.
Yes on liberal SCOTUS justices.
No to 4 more years of Republican/conservative hatred for 1/2 of all Americans.



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yelladawgNC

posted October 21, 2008 at 3:07 pm


Everybody knows that any new President is likely to face pressure from other countries, testing his mettle. I trust Obama ten times more than I trust McCain to handle any crisis. All you have to do is to compare the way they have dealt with recent events in the economy. McCain ran around like the proverbial chicken with his head cut off, flapping and squawking and trying out one position after another in rapid succession, until neither he nor anyone else knew what he stood for. Obama has remained calm, cool and collected throughout, and he has delivered the same message on the economy for at least the last two years.
He’s a leader. A “maverick” is neither a leader nor a follower, by definition. A “maverick” wanders off on his own and often gets lost. But McCain is only a make-believe maverick, anyway. He’s just part of the Republican herd, a guy who voted with Bush 90% of the time and whose policies differ not at all from what we’ve been subjected to for the last eight years. Now he’s made a pact with the devil and will clearly say anything to anyone if he thinks it will help to get him elected. It won’t. He has already lost his soul and his honor; now all that remains is for him to lose the election and go home to Arizona, where he can fade into the sunset clinging to the hope that people will forget the pathetic and humiliating spectacle that was his final act in history.



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ExFeminist

posted October 21, 2008 at 3:21 pm


I am very much committed to people on the lower strata becoming a full part of society. I do not like prejudice of any kind. Thus being said, I do not like it that most educated people think anyone of any religious conviction is a nutcase. I think the West is in such a state of moral decline, that if the Arabs do not attack us, I see another Hitler or Stalin arising, and it is interesting to note that the great genocidal countries of the twentieth century were founded on Darwinism and mostly on Marxism. Most of these countries prided themselves on education (Germany, Russia, Japan, China, etc.) and others had dictators that were educated in Marxist Darwinist principles (Pol Pot, Kim Jong Il, Hojxa, etc…). As wonderful as science and medicine are, they have clinical zed sexuality, made possible the eradication of anyone with any type of physical handicap, have taken away all of our sense of security, have taken away all of our privacy. If I had gotten married and had children, I would have welcomed every child (and I have three autistic people in my family) and would have stayed faithful to one man for life. In today’s promiscuous feminist society, this is the reason why I never got married and had children – men want promiscuous women they can shag and be uncommitted to instead of a traditional girl. I know from history men have abused women greatly, but why should my freedom to be treated as a human being and have equal rights in the workplace necessitate me being sexually promiscuous…that part of feminism does not compute. I don’t get women today – I don’t think achieving in the workplace has anything to do with being a ho…and I don’t think people who live like that are liberated.



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MzEllen

posted October 21, 2008 at 3:32 pm


People *really* need to get some perspective on the man.
Go for it, Minnie. That’s what we’ve been trying to get you to do all along.



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Minnie

posted October 21, 2008 at 3:48 pm


Go for it, Minnie. That’s what we’ve been trying to get you to do all along.
I have perspective on Obama. I know he’s human, and he’s not perfect, and that he won’t always do things I agree with. But I’m okay with that. It’s why I took advantage of early voting and cast my ballot for him yesterday. For me, this election is over and I’m just waiting for the results.
For me, Obama is by far the best candidate running right now. I don’t agree with him on everything, but he’s intelligent and has the calm, level-headed demeanor that I dearly want in a president after the last eight years.
Also, even if I’d been considering McCain before yesterday, the shameful way the Republican party and the McCain campaign have been acting these past days would have changed my vote. As long as the crazies on the far right, with their idiotic “Pro-America/Anti-America” and “Real/Fake America” divides have a voice in the GOP, I’m not interested. I’ll take my chances with Obama instead.



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yelladawgNC

posted October 21, 2008 at 5:29 pm


ExFeminist: The greatest genocide of the 20th century was the Holocaust, carried out by fascists who were virulent anti-Communists. Pro-Fascist elements in America, including George W. Bush’s grandfather Prescott Bush, attempted a coup against Franklin Roosevelt. (This is not some kind of crazy conspiracy theory; this is history–there was a Congressional hearing into the matter.) If America ever faces a threat from within, you can bet it will come from the right. Bush himself has laid the groundwork by suspending habeas corpus, violating the Constitutional right to privacy with warrantless wire-tapping and abrogating unprecedented power to the executive branch. I think it’s no accident that both George Bush and John McCain have joked publicly about wishing they were dictators.
This is not to excuse in any way the horrors of totalitarian regimes like Stalin’s which espoused Communism and brutally persecuted their people, especially anyone who voiced dissent–which included adhering to religious beliefs. But let’s not forget the role that religion has played in carrying out persecution and silencing dissent itself. When Christianity allies itself with the kingdoms of this world, when it identifies its interests with the interests of the a particular party or government–any party or government– Christians are in grave danger. That is what conservative Christians have done for decades now, and their minds and hearts have been so warped as a result that many of them can scarcely believe that anyone who belongs to a different party can be a brother or sister in Christ. That’s how far wrong they have gone. In the process, they have alienated millions of people from the Gospel of Christ by their ugly, judgmental, accusatory attitudes, their focus on others’ behavior and shortcomings rather than their own, their lack of charity and joy.
As for most educated people viewing “any one of any religion” as a nutcase, that’s simply untrue. Everyone in my church is an educated person; I live in a university town and many of them are professors. I’m sure some of their colleagues wonder how they can believe what they do and regard Christian beliefs as quaint notions or something, but they certainly don’t regard their Christian (or Jewish or Buddhist) colleagues as nutcases. However, you can hardly blame people for forming a low opinion of religious folk when they hear Falwell on the news blaming 9-11 on gays and feminists or Palin espousing the theory that dinosaurs and humans walked the earth at the same time.
I agree with you that women degrade themselves when they equate freedom with sexual promiscuity. But that’s not the fault of feminism. Feminism is, at its core, about women taking responsibility for themselves, about being seen as distinctive individuals with unique gifts and skills rather than members of a category, about having the freedom to reach one’s potential without being told “you can’t do X or Y because you’re a woman.”
I blame parents for a lot of the truly awful sexualization of little girls. If you give a little girl a doll that looks like a cocktail waitress who wears a DD bra and stiletto heels; if you teach her that being a girl is all about how pretty or how thin you are, not how strong or how kind or tenacious or funny or faithful or smart; if you feed her a steady diet of Disney films full of the worst sort of sexual stereotypes; if you let her believe that one day a man will come along and sweep her off her feet and pay her bills and look after her and her children forever so she won’t have to worry about a thing and thus doesn’t need to prepare herself to earn a living or buy a house–well then, you shouldn’t be surprised if at 11 years old she wants to dress like a miniature prostitute and has no interest in anything but attracting boys. And you can hardly blame boys if, instead of treating girls with the same respect they treat one another, they regard them as little more than potential sex partners and use them accordingly.



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MzEllen

posted October 21, 2008 at 5:56 pm


Nathan, it’s not only taxes. It’s education – Obama chaired an education activist board with a “radical activist” who holds Hugo Chavez in high regard. This “radical activist” spoke at a forum hosted by Chavez in 2006, that he believes “that education is the motor-force of revolution…” and that he “looks forward to “seeing how he and all of you continue to overcome the failings of capitalist education…” Later, describing a time when he (the “radical activist”) was in jail for ten days, “I met several activists who were finding ways to link teaching and education with deep and fundamental social change.”
Obama shared a common activist education goal with a man who sees education as a tool for revolution, as a way to overcome the ‘failings’ of capitalist education’, and as a way to link education with social change. (The “radical activist” is self-described as a “small c communist”)
The people who Obama has associated himself politically have a purpose.



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DA

posted October 21, 2008 at 6:01 pm


If you look at the full context (instead of the lovely cutting in that clip…), you’ll see that the argument goes that regardless of who’s elected, the US will face some sort of crisis. So the question should be rather who do you want there ready to deal with that crisis. Conventional wisdom as recently as a year ago would have leaned pretty strongly toward McCain on that (and especially 8 years ago–can you imagine how much better we’d have been had he beat Bush in the primaries?)…but that was before he skewed rightward and surrounded himself with Bush-like advisers…and seems so unpredictable when he is faced with crisis that there’s no telling if he’d react with an ill-advised gimmick or a genuine solution.
Obama, meanwhile, has surrounded himself with a diverse and knowledgeable group of advisers, has demonstrated a willingness to listen to conflicting viewpoints and discern the wisest course, and has shown himself to be calm and thoughtful in response to whatever’s been thrown at him. Sounds like someone who would handle whatever crisis may come quite well.



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Charles Cosimano

posted October 21, 2008 at 6:10 pm


Of course Obama is going to be tested by the damned foreigners. It was all President Eisenhower’s fault for not using our nuclear weapons to enslave the ones we could and remove the one’s we could not. So now we are stuck with all these damned people speaking funny languages that think they have a place on the same earth with us.
Of course, being somewhat inexperienced and feeling that he has to prove his manhood in this area, Obama may pull that trigger.
Nah! Just kidding.



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anonymous reincarnate

posted October 22, 2008 at 2:19 am


“We’re going to face a major international challenge. Because they’re going to want to test him, just like they did young John Kennedy. They’re going to want to test him. And they’re going to find out this guy’s got steel in his spine.”
neither biden nor albright said that “we’ll be attacked.” learn to read & listen. biden also went on to say, “It’s so much more important than that. It’s so much more complicated than that. And Barack gets it.
“BTW, do you think Biden’s been sent to re-education camp today for being honest and admitting that they’ll fail the test?”
no i don’t. considering that he never admitted that they’d fail any test (wishful thinking from a rightie… i’m sure you would just love that even at the expense of the nation) and considering the fact that he was here in my home state campaigning in multiple cities today. i guess that’s what you get when you rely on hotair for your information. oops!
http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_10776227



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anonymous reincarnate

posted October 22, 2008 at 2:39 am


“Obama is a socialist through and through.”
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/54546.html
and then there is this:

MCCAIN: I think your question — questioning the fundamentals of a progressive tax system where people who make more money pay more in taxes than a flat, across-the-board percentage. I think it’s to some degree because we feel, obviously, that wealthy people can afford more. We have over the years, beginning with John F. Kennedy, reduced some of those marginal tax rates to make them less onerous. But I believe that when you really look at the tax code today, the very wealthy, because they can afford tax lawyers and all kinds of loopholes, really don’t pay nearly as much as you think they do when you just look at the percentages. And I think middle-income Americans, working Americans, when the account and payroll taxes, sales taxes, mortgage pay — all of the taxes that working Americans pay, I think they — you would think that they also deserve significant relief, in my view. — October 12, 2000, firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/21/1577609.aspx



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anonymous reincarnate

posted October 22, 2008 at 3:20 am


“Obama shared a common activist education goal with a man who sees education as a tool for revolution, as a way to overcome the ‘failings’ of capitalist education’, and as a way to link education with social change.”
surely you have proof that he shared some nefarious “activist education goal!”
“education is the motor-force of revolution.”
it sure is. that’s why our government believes that it’s important to counter radical islam with proper education to children in poor islamic countries.
and in case you don’t get it, education is a social change. it attempts to transform the unlearned and unskilled into civilians who can better contribute to our society. that’s why jefferson and washington promoted public education. seeing how our capitalist system severely tanked for the second time – with many painful falls in between – i think it may be worth considering some new ideas to shore it up, possibly even radical ones.
“The people who Obama has associated himself politically have a purpose.”
i would hope that everyone has a purpose in life. perhaps you have some superpower that makes you capable of knowing the purposes of people around obama, including even those with whom he never had a close relationship to (like ayers). or maybe you have some evidence of what those purposes are.



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MzEllen

posted October 22, 2008 at 7:28 am


and then there is this:
Right and the question I keep asking is: how much is “fair”? Should a person making “more” be allowed to keep 50% of what they earn? 25%? Should they be allowed to keep 10%? How much is fair?
Even worse, you would crucify Obama for working with this “radical activist” on a charity board.
Crucify? CRUCIFY???
No. I take his political allies into account in a political way?
*I* hold Hugo Chavez in high regard.
What you seem to detest is that there is a difference of opinion. The same reason you would vote for Obama, I would vote against him.
For that, we are called idiots, moron and your attitude is obvious toward those who disagree with you.
I don’t fear the coming persecution. I do accept it.



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DC

posted October 22, 2008 at 4:19 pm


As usual, the comments are vastly more interesting and well-informed than the original post. Thank you, Nathan and Yella for your patient commitment to facts and data. But just to return to the original post for a moment, is Michele actually suggesting that we should let our enemies select our President by threatening to attack us if we elect someone they don’t approve of?
I’m still waiting for Michele to post some objection to the hateful “anti-American” rhetoric being used by Republicans to add credibility to her (so far one-sided) attack on accusations of racism by middle-schoolers for her daughter’s support for McCain. Note: in this case, the hate speech was coming from elected officials, not pre-teens. Though they were acting like middle-schoolers. As I have said before, if you can’t argue without questioning the loyalty and integrity of the other side, you automatically lose. Ad hominem attacks inevitably diminish the credibility of any statement.
As for Ayers, is there some “activist” program of his that anyone is objecting to? Or just his failure to apologize more explicitly in addition to devoting his life to what by all bi-partisan accounts is understood to be service for the public good?



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MzEllen

posted October 22, 2008 at 6:34 pm


Nathan, when comments are made about the intelligence of the person posting, that is insulting. I choose not to participate.
Read the past threads. Liberals (AR especially) uses words like idiot, moron, etc. I choose not to participate and will continue to bow out of a conversation where I am insulted. Please feel free to call me on the same thing if I slip up and indulge – I covet the accountability.
While only God can judge a soul, it is fairly obvious that she is unsaved.
If the persecution is real, it is not a complex. I blogged several months ago about a Christian photographer who was sued by a lesbian couple for declining their “wedding” business.
And a Christian fertility who was sued for civil rights violations because he referred a lesbian couple to another doctor in the same office, rather than artificially inseminate one of them.
These are Christians who have deep religious convictions, who are being sued for those convictions. And more will be coming. Gay rights will trump religious rights.
This is not a ‘complex’ – It will be reality.
(I am very sorry for mixing you up with the Obama supporters – but my point still stands. The political allies – whether in Chicago, educational politics, Trinity Church or Podunk, Anystate – are fair game to be taken into consideration when choosing which candidate to vote for)



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anonymous reincarnate

posted October 22, 2008 at 6:38 pm


“How much is fair?”
keep asking, ’cause i’ve stopped answering. so, maybe you can answer your own question by answering these:
how much was fair under reagan? under clinton? or according to mccain 2k?



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