Jesus Creed

Jesus Creed

Weekly Meanderings

We walk at Independence Grove and here are some native flowers: Cardinal flower and Shooting star, and the third is Little bluestem, a wild, native prairie (ornamental) grass. We like it so much, we’ve got some growing from seeds (and does it grow slowly):
The blog world has been slow for us of late… maybe vacations … but here are some links.
Dave Dunbar’s got a new post up on Missional Journal.
Feel called? What do you think of this theory? (HT: BB)
Karen’s called … and one thing she does is write good prose and do book signings. And tells this wondrous story.
Dogs and cats, cats and dogs.
Peggy’s dance.
James McGrath on how fundamentalism is unbiblical.
Don Johnson asks “Why?”
Some blogs you need to know about: Allan Bevere, Brad Boydston, JR Woodward and Mark Roberts: these are some very good blogs.
Good story on McCain’s story.
Professor Mr. Obama.
“Heckman points out that big gaps in educational attainment are present at age 5. Some children are bathed in an atmosphere that promotes human capital development and, increasingly, more are not. By 5, it is possible to predict, with depressing accuracy, who will complete high school and college and who won?t.”
1. Reading habits — changing, changing.
2. A good article on how Pompeii is in need of attention.
3. Changes in Lake Michigan.
4. No worry, man.
5. We saw the signs of melting from the sky recently; it was stunning in several ways.
6. This would be cool — very cool. If I were a rich man, I’d buy one for Tony Jones.
7. John Ortberg’s excellent piece on pastors dealing with opposition.
8. I thought this was an excellent description of storytelling.
Wow, did you see those Cubbies this week up in Brewville Wisconsin? I’d like some MD explain to us how Kerry Wood can have a blister on his index finger for a month or more.
Here’s what I say to the LPGA pros criticizing Michelle Wie: leave her alone.

Comments read comments(14)
post a comment
Ted M. Gossard

posted August 2, 2008 at 12:22 am

I’m glad you cite Allan Bevere’s blog. Many good things on there, and it really looks nice. I’ve learned and am learning alot from him.

report abuse


posted August 2, 2008 at 5:37 am

Scot – yes, saw the Cubs at Wrigley North… the Brewers – and their fans – failed to show up.
Not sure which debacle is more embarrassing – last week at Miller Park, or the goings-on between Lambeau and Mississippi….

report abuse


posted August 2, 2008 at 8:05 am

On the education article,
Brooks tells the secret motivation for pushing early education in the first sentence of his last paragraph… “America rose because it got more out of its own people than other nations.”
I’d like to see stats to back up his assertion, “America?s lead over its economic rivals has been entirely forfeited, with many nations surging ahead in school attainment.” I would guess he’s briefly changed the subject to a comparison of average scores of the educated, which is a different comparison and a rather uneven one.

report abuse

Tim Gombis

posted August 2, 2008 at 8:30 am

So great to see the Cubbies take it to the Brewers, especially Sabathia and Sheets — but how do they then get shut out by the Pirates?! Crazy…

report abuse


posted August 2, 2008 at 9:04 am

I really loved your piece on community and your image of the Bride of Christ as quadriplegic unable to dance when too much hierarchy is imposed. I couldn’t agree more. I have often (politically incorrectly) said to myself: “x, y or z congregation (the lay people) are being crippled by the hierarchy.) I also found your piece a refreshing contrast to the piece on trusting the discernment of your spiritual leaders over your own sense of calling. (“Feel called? What do you think of this piece?”) I “got” that we overuse and misuse the word “feeling” and that some things we characterize as God’s callings are our own desires (no argument) but the advice to relinquish one’s own sense of God’s leading in our lives to wait for the call from the church leadership was highly alarming to me. Perhaps I’ve just seen how flawed and human –and conformed to the larger society — much of church leadership is but I wouldn’t put my trust in that body. And I would argue that the Bible backs up that line of thought very strongly, as the religious leadership in the Bible, from flase prophets to Pharisees is so often a mess. The way to discern a calling is through consultation with (not deferral to!!) trusted spiritual advisers but mostly through lots of prayer and Bible reading. Also, I wouldn’t wait to hear an audible voice, as the blog seems to suggest is the Biblical model.
I did like the piece by John Ortberg on opposition.

report abuse

John Frye

posted August 2, 2008 at 10:38 am

Some random thoughts: I read the theory on “the call” and I could appreciate the author’s desire to shed the too-subjective, individualistic baggage often associated with a “call.” As a pastor, a colleague and I had to confront people who “felt called” to the mission field and we did not endorse that “call.” We were accused of going against the very will of God. The idea of processing “the call” in community is wise counsel. But I think that something weighty, enduring and significant to many is being too cavalierly dismissed (in the name of accuracy with “the text”).

report abuse


posted August 2, 2008 at 11:51 am

Thanks for the link … glad I could help out on a “slow blog week” (only Scot McKnight could say that 8) )
Diane, I am glad the images were helpful. I struggled with the “either/or” sense I was feeling when reading the article on being “called”. I think it is a bit of the both/and here. I know for myself the “fingerprint” of God’s call is something that would never occur to me — something outrageous that I wouldn’t think I could do. In each moment God has “called” my name, it has been like this. And as I have answered, “Here am I”, the call has been confirmed over and over in a wide variety of ways.
Certainly that has been the case of CovenantClusters … and I find it very interesting that 2 1/2 years have passed since that first call. It has been a call that set me on a journey, that’s for sure!
Sometimes, God must call to individuals when the leadership is not listening — or sometimes when they just can’t hear because they’re doing what they’re supposed to be doing and God is wanting to do something else in a both/and kind of way. That’s what I think my circumstance entails.
And John, I agree totally with you about having to “speak the truth in love” to those whose call raises “red flags” — but to me that also includes helping them discern the true focus on their call. Sometimes folks just need to see the options around in order to connect the dots.
It is a fearful thing to cavalierly dismiss what might be the wind of the Spirit….

report abuse

Ted M. Gossard

posted August 2, 2008 at 11:59 am

I have a bad attitude about the call, because I don’t think often that people seem to care about much of anything except their own call and kingdom. There’s not that commitment to helping others find their good place in God’s kingdom in Jesus.
Part of the reason I am where I am today. You can call it an excuse, but I little care what others think. Some of us do seem to have more to overcome than others, in my case depression most all my life.
But we need to be committed to helping others, and especially those in Jesus when they’re younger. to find their call.
And I agree with what John is saying here. “6

report abuse


posted August 2, 2008 at 12:05 pm

…went back to read Ortberg’s article. Reminded me of a course I took written by a friend at church: “Blossoming Through Criticism.” Still have the booklet, after 20 years. It was an important lesson — like John says in the article — to take every criticism as an opportunity to submit to the Spirit … to be tested (like I just read about Abraham in Peterson’s book: The Jesus Way).
Problem is we don’t like being tested. But untested too often means vulnerable to attack … so I try to let God sort out the tests with me, with gratitude mixed in with grace for the one providing the opportunity.
What was that old saying? “Feedback is the breakfast of Champions.” Goes right with that other old saying: Breakfast is the most important meal of the day.” 😉

report abuse


posted August 2, 2008 at 1:55 pm

Flourishing » A nation of semi-literate technicians?

[…] I’ve posted before on emerging trends in reading. Scot McKnight at Jesus Creed links to a New York Times dealing with the same topic. As I’ve noted before, Americans aren’t reading less. If anything, we’re reading more. Only, we’re not reading books. The National Endowment for the Arts reports that declines in readership mirror declining standardized test scores. Not that this matters, since universities are beginning to make such tests optional. See for example Wake Forest University. I wish they had done this about fifteen years ago! […]

report abuse


posted August 2, 2008 at 8:08 pm

Re: The Brooks piece: Not that long ago I read just the opposite — namely that great disparities in education in 3-5 year-olds disappear such that by age 8 you cannot tell who went to pre-school and who played in the sandbox for an extra two years.
The depressing thing about scientific research (and the “soft” sciences are even more prone than the hard ones) is that you can find a study/paper to support just about anything. I had a much higher opinion of the medical field before I was a part of it.

report abuse


posted August 2, 2008 at 11:11 pm

on the Reading Habits article–i have mixed feelings about this. i think if younger people are spending time on the internet READING, this is a good thing. the problem comes in with the IMing and txt language where they lose out on correct grammar, prolonged concentration, and processing stories. But the writer makes a great point that they are reading stories, but it’s their story selected by them. it raises another issue about how to connect with this generation in our preaching and speaking when that is how they are processing with text and communication.
but this also becomes an issue with parental involvement and influence. my husband and i love to read–books, magazines, journals, AND the internet–and so do our kids. we, our kids included, are regulars at the library and spend a good hour or two perusing books when we go at least once a week. we have never met a bookstore we didn’t like, yet we limit our kid’s on-line time (not even close to the 6 hours of the 16-year old in the story!).
Scot-i have to tell you that Lake Michigan is disgusting. i will not go into its water because i come out stinking and not knowing what i’ve possibly caught. it’s gross. i read that article last week and shuddered.
“WHY?” by Don Johnson: What a great perspective by his daughter’s boyfriend.
Michelle Wie: she brought the attention to herself though with the multi-million dollar contracts with Sony and Nike as a 16 year old AND she hadn’t even won a tournament. That had to irk the other LPGA players. If she wants to play the PGA tournaments, that’s fine. Wherever she plays, with that kind of money in the bank, you would expect her to win something. She has been laying low since being at Stanford, hopefully she’s getting good coaching and taking care of herself.

report abuse


posted August 3, 2008 at 7:43 am

In regard to the article on “the call,” I do appreciate what the author had to say, but I’m glad for the balance brought by some of the replies in this blog. When I am invited to do such-and-such by the church (pastor, sister, whatever) and I take it to prayerful consideration, when I make my decision, what does one call that? “Feeling” is the word most typical in American English: “I prayed and I felt as though I should/should not involve myself in this effort at this time.” One more point: I use this language specifically to be clear and honest – I did what I FELT was best; this is preferable, in my mind, to saying, “God told me such-and-such;” many take the Lord’s Name in vain by ‘anointing’ their own ideas and efforts with “The Lord led us to….,” a form of blasphemy much worse (I think) than saying, “Jesus Christ!” when you stub your toe (not that that is any more acceptable, but hopefully you understand the comparison for hyperbole’s sake).

report abuse


posted August 4, 2008 at 11:12 am

The Margins » Quotation of the Week

[…] From Michael J. Svigel, via Scot McKnight […]

report abuse

Post a Comment

By submitting these comments, I agree to the terms of service, rules of conduct and privacy policy (the "agreements"). I understand and agree that any content I post is licensed to and may be used by in accordance with the agreements.

Previous Posts

More Blogs To Enjoy!!!
Thank you for visiting Jesus Creed. This blog is no longer being updated. Please enjoy the archives. Here are some other blogs you may also enjoy: Red Letters with Tom Davis Recent prayer post on Prayables Most Recent Inspiration blog ...

posted 11:15:58am Aug. 16, 2012 | read full post »

Our Common Prayerbook 30 - 3
Psalm 30 thanks God (vv. 1-3, 11-12) and exhorts others to thank God (vv. 4-5). Both emerge from the concrete reality of David's own experience. Here is what that experience looks like:Step one: David was set on high and was flourishing at the ...

posted 12:15:30pm Aug. 31, 2010 | read full post »

Theology After Darwin 1 (RJS)
One of the more important and more difficult pieces of the puzzle as we feel our way forward at the interface of science and faith is the theological implications of discoveries in modern science. A comment on my post Evolution in the Key of D: ...

posted 6:01:52am Aug. 31, 2010 | read full post »

Almost Christian 4
Who does well when it comes to passing on the faith to the youth? Studies show two groups do really well: conservative Protestants and Mormons; two groups that don't do well are mainline Protestants and Roman Catholics. Kenda Dean's ...

posted 12:01:53am Aug. 31, 2010 | read full post »

Let's Get Neanderthal!
The Cave Man Diet, or Paleo Diet, is getting attention. (Nothing is said about Culver's at all.) The big omission, I have to admit, is that those folks were hunters -- using spears or smacking some rabbit upside the conk or grabbing a fish or ...

posted 2:05:48pm Aug. 30, 2010 | read full post »


Report as Inappropriate

You are reporting this content because it violates the Terms of Service.

All reported content is logged for investigation.