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Deacon apologizes for homily remark about “Adam and Steve”

posted by jmcgee

I’ve never heard of someone making a public apology for something he said in a homily.

Until now:

The Gloucestershire Gay and Lesbian Community has accepted a Catholic deacon’s apology for preaching that “marriage is between Adam and Eve — not Adam and Steve.”

Following the January homily in which he made his remarks, Deacon Frank Wainwright (inaccurately referred to as a priest in some press accounts) received five complaints from parishioners. Additional complaints were addressed to the local newspaper and to community leaders.

The London Telegraph has more:

Rev Frank Wainwright…apologised for causing any offence and claimed he is not ”homophobic”.

He said: ”The sermon was about marriage and I have no idea why all this has come up but someone has obviously complained.

”The comment is obviously not homophobic and it was just intended as a joke. My duty is to preach what the church preaches that marriage is between a man and a woman.

”I have plenty of gay friends and I have no problem at all with them but as a Catholic minister I must preach that marriage is between a man and woman and nothing else.

”I’m sure there are gay members of my congregation and I imagine it’s one of them who complained but it certainly wasn’t the thrust of my sermon.

”I can see why people are upset by the comment because it was flippant. I totally accept that I have caused offence and I am apologising for that.”

The Telegraph link has more of the homily, and reaction from the gay community.



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Brad

posted March 12, 2010 at 9:09 am


Why is he apologizing? A preacher should be telling his congregation to act in accordance with Gods laws! This type of apology is exactly what is wrong with some of these churches. They are accountable to God and God alone, if they can profess his word who can?



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Margaret

posted March 12, 2010 at 9:36 am


Poor guy but I think clergy need to learn PDQ that there are vast numbers of folk out there missing a their funny bone.



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Melchizedek

posted March 12, 2010 at 10:20 am


Hipocrisy @ chickenness in pleasing…dumb sheep? Is it not a Pasotr’s duty to teach @ not to please the feelings?
the End is coming (1P:17)



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Frank

posted March 12, 2010 at 10:50 am


Margaret,
My response would have been, “That’s the Gospel according to Donna Summer.” Donna Summer ended her career as the queen of disco by criticizing her gay fans saying “God made Adam and Eve – not Adam and Steve.”
How good’s your sense of humor? Catholics and Evangelicals and other noisily-self-proclaimed Christians are supporting disgraced New York state senator Hiram Monserrate in his bid to reclaim his office after he was arrested for slashing his girlfriend’s face with a broken bottle. He’s now supported as a champion of “Family Values” (sounds just like “White Culture”).
Does this mean (Christian) marriage is “One Man+ One Woman+ One broken bottle?”



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david

posted March 12, 2010 at 11:58 am


Why is he apologizing indeed! He was right! As a Catholic Christian, it is his DUTY to preach the truth, not be politically correct at the expense of his soul and the souls of those who he has been entrusted by God to shepherd. Pathetic that some people like to call themselves Christians but have no concern for God or his commandments.



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Frank

posted March 12, 2010 at 12:02 pm


The Deacon shouldn’t be apologizing to gays and lesbians; he should be apologizing to Catholics who oppose same-sex marriage for making such a poor argument when better arguments are available.



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Donna

posted March 12, 2010 at 12:37 pm


I think the Deacon was right to apologize. His remark was flippant (as he put it). When we speak the truth, we don’t have to sound like smart alecs.



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Your Name

posted March 12, 2010 at 1:39 pm


Shalom brothers & sisters. Peace & Love of GOD our FATHER & Our LORD JESUS CHRIST Be with You.
“Let us seek peace whenever possible”. And when war is upon us, let us not retreat from it, for there is a purpose for every season under the sun. It is displeasing to YESHUA when HIS children cower to Politically Correct, Morally Repugnant servants of Satan. Indeed, they act with far more courage and moral conviction than we, who too often are found “lukewarm” and frightened of consequences resulting from Standing Fast in the WORD. If we aren’t offending the enemy, than we are not Serving YAHWEH Our FATHER with Honor. “No soldier is concerned with the affairs of this world”, but is set about to storming the hightowers of the Manslayer. If we fail to warn them…to Love them who practice and support gay marriage (which is abomination to The LORD) enough to tell them the TRUTH WITHOUT FEAR OF RETRIBUTION, then we are parties to their death. We all know this. What kind of Christian doesn’t forcefully intervene to stop another, made in the Loving image GOD Our FATHER, from committing Spiritual Suicide. Instead “Be Stong, and of Good Courage”. (Joshua 1:9) CHRIST’S Love to All, Craig Ernest.



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Jack

posted March 12, 2010 at 1:48 pm


I really don’t see what the problem is. His remarks were certainly true. Certainly not a reference we’ve never heard a million times before. Maybe it struck a few nerves but then in this PC thin-skinned world people can’t take the truth.



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Your Name

posted March 12, 2010 at 2:17 pm


As one blessed to live in Victory over the devestating effects of rape and sodomy at the hands of 2 pedophiliac sodomite priests in Massachusetts, I have learned that the enemy is more often than not found “within” the church. (The Body of Christ). They’re the ones adorned with faces of virtue and robes of righteousness, but inside are “full of dead mens bones and all corruption.” The time of panty-wearing Christianity is soon be brought low, to the Lake of Fire. Let us pray that we are found in joyful anticipation for the soon coming of our beloved LORD & HUSBAND, YESHUA HaMESIACH. HE WHO IS, WHO WAS, & WHO WILL BE…THE ALPHA & THE OMEGA. THE WAY, THE LIFE, & THE TRUTH. “The Captain of the Host”, “Mighty in Battle” is HIS Name. Blessed Is He forever and forever! Amen & Amen
Remember Beloved Brethren, “We wrestle not against flesh & blood, but against principalities and powers, against the forces of darkness, the sons of wickedness in high places”. “Only with our eyes shall we behold, and see the reward of the wicked”. GOD forbid we be found turning our loved ones over to Satan for destruction because we didn’t want to “hurt their feelings”. Or more often than that, because we are afraid to lose our position or the affections and flatteries of men, instead of seeking to please GOD Our beloved FATHER. Let the chips fall where they may. Strength and Courage Brothers and Sisters. CHRIST LOVES US, & We are Purchased with a Price. Halelujah! GLORY TO GOD IN THE HIGHEST! JESUS LOVES YOU ALL! He indeed loves us enough to tell us the Truth! Praise ABBA!



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Your Name

posted March 12, 2010 at 2:30 pm


Thank You, and GOD Bless You beautiful and brave Brother Kandra. Rock On! “No weapon that is forged against you shall prosper”. Believe it, and it shall be so. ADONAI Our Sweet and Mighty LORD give HIS angels charge over You, to keep You in all Your ways Brother. Thank You again. May we all here be refreshed in our Sabbath rest and restoration this weekend. Let us turn from the Works of our Hands, and turn to the Heart of Our Beloved. HE IS COMING SOON. Maranatha! CHRIST LOVES YOU. He shall never leave or forsake you. HE has given us “oil for ashes”. Halelujah!
Shalom. In CHRISTS Loving Embrace and Service,
Craig Ernest



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CHRISTIAN SOLDIER

posted March 12, 2010 at 2:37 pm


In CHRIST, “Christian Soldier” is my E-Name name. For some reason, it is disappearing in the Post. Just shows up as “Your Name”. Anyone know why?
Love and Peace to All here, and to your Loved Ones.
Craig Ernest



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Wonderng

posted March 12, 2010 at 3:18 pm


Is this guy for real?



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pagansister

posted March 12, 2010 at 3:42 pm


Wasn’t a very original statement….



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Deacon John M. Bresnahan

posted March 12, 2010 at 6:42 pm


The comment in controversy I have heard in many places, but it seems a bit flip for the pulpit–although the deacon’s comment is absolutely true and, who knows, maybe the comment might wake some people up to what is happening in our culture.
I presume the mistake that the preacher may have been a priest was caused by him being called Rev. instead of Rev. Mr.
In some American dioceses Rev. Mr. is not used, but only Deacon–although, as I understand it, Rome uses (and possibly prefers) Rev. Mr.



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Mordred08

posted March 12, 2010 at 8:56 pm


Rev Wainright should have apologized for his embarrassing lack of originality. Come on, “Adam and Steve?” That’s the best you can come up with? Let me guess, next you were gonna say “they can’t reproduce, so they must recruit”? Come up with some new sayings, Christians.



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Andrew

posted March 13, 2010 at 6:26 am


Deacon Bresnahan, just to clarify a little thing: “Rev. Mr.” is only used for transitional deacons, if at all (as it indicates the transition between being “Mr.” and “Rev.”). Permanent deacons are to be addressed as “Deacon” rather than “Rev. Mr.” according to the National Directory for the Formation, Ministry and Life of Permanent Deacons in the United States.
In many other countries and in some of the Eastern Catholic Churches, though, “Father” and “Rev.” are used equally for anyone ordained, whether presbyter or deacon.



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Reaganite in NYC

posted March 13, 2010 at 8:43 am


There’s no reason for this deacon in England to have apologized.
I’ve heard this line before, and it is an apt description of the application of Christian anthropology to the issue of gender complementarity, rooted in the Book of Genesis. The “theology of the body” Wednesday Angelus lectures which the late Pope, John Paul II, shared during the early 1980s were rooted in scriptural exegesis of the Book of Genesis.
Let me encourage any priests and deacons to feel free to use this phrase — “Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve” — to drive home the point that our Catholic view of marriage is reflected in a Christian anthropology that draws inspiration from the Book of Genesis.



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