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President Obama Expresses His Christian Faith (Again)

posted by Nicole Neroulias

President Obama has talked about his Christian faith, once again. He explained at a New Mexico town hall-style discussion on the economy yesterday that he’s Christian “by choice” — wording presumably meant to reassure anyone who thinks he’s a “born Muslim” because of his atheist/estranged/deceased father’s African Muslim roots.

Obama’s response, to a question about abortion rights (so much for talking about the economy!), included this quote:

“I came to my Christian faith later in life, and it was because the precepts of Jesus Christ spoke to me in terms of the kind of life that I would want to lead. Being my brothers’ and sisters’ keeper. Treating others as they would treat me. And I think also understanding that, you know, that Jesus Christ dying for my sins spoke to the humility that we all have to have as human beings.”

He goes on to talk about the importance of religious freedom for everyone, however, and — going back to the original question — reiterated that he believes abortion should be “safe, legal and rare” in America and a decision that is best made by families, not the government.

Well, that — along with his recent church attendance – should settle it for those 1-in-5 Americans who think Obama’s a Muslim. Or, not, given what else one out of every five Americans believes in. (Remember, there’s always that one dentist who holds out on recommending the healthy toothpaste, too!)

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posted September 29, 2010 at 2:29 pm


Yeah, right, Obama’s a Christian, that’s why he still kept his Islamic name Barak Hussein Obama, rather than keep his birth name Barry Sotero. And Hitler and Mao and Lenin and Stalin and Moussolini no doubt told the duped masses the same thing. If you fall for this, you choose to believe a complete bald-faced lie. You choose to be deceived. The serpent told Eve in the Garden, “Thou shalt not surely die.” Satan is a Liar and the father of lies. This Obama is a liar. Scripture says we shall know them by their fruits. If it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck, and has all the features of a duck, it’s a duck.



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Your Name

posted September 29, 2010 at 3:04 pm


Asshole comments like yours are why America is in such deep $#*! right now.
Grow up.
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kenneth

posted September 29, 2010 at 3:59 pm


The ignorant hilljacks and conspiracy theorists will never believe that Obama could be Christian or in any way well meaning because it contradicts their own twisted narrative. Many of them won’t admit this even to themselves, but what kills them is that a “darkie” got elected president, and that just COULDN’T have happened in any legitimate way. He MUST have an evil agenda, hiding alien citizenship, secretly Muslim, socialist, space lizard, anti-family, any or all of the above. Their rules of evidence work like Stalin’s twisted paranoia. The harder Obama tries to publicly embrace his Christian beliefs, the more it convinces them that he’s trying to hide something…



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Randy

posted September 29, 2010 at 4:28 pm


Whatever faith Pres. Obama is, one thing I know with certainty is that it is NOT Christianity. He has on many occasions claimed that he believes certain people he knew are saved because they lived a good enough life despite their rejection of Jesus. This belief is 100% contrary to the teachings of Jesus that He Himself is the ONLY way of salvation. There is no other name under heaven by which men shall be saved. This is at the heart of Christianity and to believe anything different means whatever religion one is practicing, it is not Christianity.



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Nicole Neroulias

posted September 29, 2010 at 4:56 pm


Randy, by that definition, most Americans are not Christians, either.
According to the researchers behind the book “American Grace” (findings presented at the Religion Newswriters Association conference last weekend), when asked whether “good people of other religions can go to heaven,” 98% of Mormons, 96 percent of mainline protestants, 95% Jews, 93% Catholics, 90% black protestants, 83% of evangelical Protestants said yes. When the question more specifically asked “even if those good people are not Christian,” it was still a clear majority: 98% of Mormons, 83% Catholics, 79% of mainline Protestants, 62% of black Protestant and 54% of evangelicals said yes.



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nnmns

posted September 29, 2010 at 5:09 pm


Nicole some Christians are amazingly fast to claim others are not Christian unless they need larger numbers of Christians for some reason. As you correctly point out, lots of people of many Christian sects are becoming more mature about their beliefs and getting away from the “Mine, mine, mine not yours!” of children.



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jducharme

posted September 29, 2010 at 5:13 pm


He does not lead a christian life – as his brother’s keeper…you mean the one in Kenya that lives in a shack off 12 bucks a year? That one? Or who knows how many other siblings his alcoholic socialist father sired. I am no christian, and do not claim to be but isnt this the person that’s supposed to be setting examples? Let’s not get into his aunt who should be deported living off the govt. And of all the churches to attend, went to J Wright’s church, interesting. (god damn america). So what was he early in life if he’s a christian later in life? What are his donations to poverty, i hope more than Joe biden’s. This man has Mark write books about his father, and is a socialist with at the least, islamic ideals and thinking



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JohnQ

posted September 29, 2010 at 8:15 pm


Commenter-
It appears that you do not know what you are talking about.
First, Barack Hussein Obama II is Pres Obama’s birth name. After his mother’s divorce from Barack Hussein Obama Sr., she married Lolo Soetoro and the pres name was changed to Barry Soetoro.
Second, his name is Arabic…not Islamic. Arabic, is directly descended from Aramaic the language our Lord Jesus Christ spoke. English of course is a Romance language….having descended from Latin, the language of the Roman Empire.
Third, the man (Obama) says he is Christian. Who are you to say otherwise? And, so what if he was Muslim? Islam in one of the three major Abrahamic religions. Muslims worship the same God as Christians and Jews.
Besides, we elected Obama President…not Pope, not minister, rabbi, etc.
Peace!



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Lisa

posted September 29, 2010 at 8:18 pm


I voted for President Obama and I have got to tell you how I am sick of hearing about this topic.
This must be the millioneth time it’s being brought up that he’s Christian and he agrees with religious freedom..and makes a statement like that on abortion?
If you agree with religious freedom or anything for that matter..why are so many laws kept in place(hint, hint…legalizing gay marriage since the bible says it isn’t acceptable..not everyone is Christian across the USA and to just say this..back in that time during history there was a lot of discrimination against women, homophobia..that has got to change since we are living in this century… Why is religion getting to make the final decision..what about human rights? I bet Jesus would see nothing wrong with it..he practiced the message of love not one of intolerance.)
Here is the problem I have with this incident. I am sure the cruise control that works for him is making sure to get it out into the media to let the nation know he is Christian and not affiliated with the faith of Islam…which has got me thinking..it’s sad that if he did happen to be practicing Islam and the teachings of Koran people would go into the discussion of he is friends with terrorists, or is a terrorist..all of these negative associations that the media exploits. There is nothing wrong with being Muslim, the Koran, or Islam.
It’s just these extremists have completely messed up what the core principles of the Koran are(which by the way Allah is a merciful and loving God..not the one these psychos claim to know and do “Allah’s will.”)
Definitely check out Greg Mortenson’s Three Cups of Tea to get a gist of what I am talking about to further educate yourself.
It’s sad that President Obama has to make sure to let everyone know he is Christian so that in an way it makes him less hated and threatening and viewed better…what is going on?



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nnmns

posted September 29, 2010 at 8:40 pm


What’s going on is that racism and Republican propaganda (acknowledged and beneath the table) has got a lot of fools flustered who really need to relax. The world is not ending, Muslims are not about to take over the US and we are anything but a socialist state.



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Clifford Hilbert

posted September 29, 2010 at 9:44 pm


Last month I posted this message on my blog http://www.watchman2009.blogspot.com
Obama’s Religion
For Obama to call himself a Christian is to blaspheme the name of Christ. Jesus was humble, meek and lowly of heart, He came to serve. He was filled with love, compassion and mercy. He spoke the truth. Barack Obama is egotistical, narcissistic, arrogant, condescending and patronizing. He is the most arrogant man to ever occupy the Oval Office. He has not one drop of love, mercy, campassion nor humility in him. There is no truth in him, he is the Liar-in-Chief.
He attended Jeremiah Wright’s church for 20 years. But when it became obvious that he would lose votes if he stayed there, he immediately left. This is not characteristic of a loyal and honorable man. Obama showed by his actions that he has no loyalty nor honor.
Is he a Christian? Certainly not! There is no evidence of Christ in him.



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moogbass

posted September 29, 2010 at 11:25 pm


John Q,
English is a Germanic Language



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Mel

posted September 30, 2010 at 12:11 am


When is someone going to do something about mobbing and gangstalking? We are tired of being abused, bullied and harassed by cops and all the others who are doing this.



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Nicole Neroulias

posted September 30, 2010 at 12:53 am


Some of these comments are incredibly nutty, but I’ll allow them unless they use foul language, become completely unrelated to the topic or use personal attacks against other posters.
In the meantime, how about this point: for those of you who insist that Obama isn’t a Christian, perhaps you are confused between “a Christian” and your definition (emphasis on YOUR) of “a good Christian.” There are millions of Christians, including a number of former U.S. Presidents, who would not meet the standards listed in some of these comments — in fact, many would fall even shorter. Somehow, I don’t think that’s what this is really about, though.



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Willis Meade

posted September 30, 2010 at 5:59 am


Butch
When is the question,”What is a Christian going to be asked….Obama say,s He is a Christian by choice….Its like saying,by choice I’m going to sit in the Garage,and be a Car….Being a Christian is accepting a GIFT from God…We are saved By Grace (Gift),thru faith,not by works…….There are a lot of people sitting in Christian Churches,that think they are Christians because they have Joined the church and attend (works)….But there is a God and He offers you a Gift of salvation…Its for you to accept or reject,but make no mistake.Sitting in a Church or making a statement won’t do it…That goes for Obama and everyone else,because its God you will answer to not Obame or the Gov,or anyone else for that matter



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Edward M

posted September 30, 2010 at 7:38 am


Precepts of Jesus Christ? It wasn’t Jesus the talked about being a brother’s keeper, it was Cain “that wicked one” as the Bible put it. Also Jesus didn’t say “Treating others as they would treat me”. He said “Doing to others as you would have them do to you”. Huge difference there.
May God be merciful to him.



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Robert

posted September 30, 2010 at 9:54 am


President Obama has lost almost all credibility in my opinion. It is not that I think he is a practicing Muslim. I just don’t believe he truly believes in any religion. I think his words about his faith is more of a political tool that he pulls out when needed.
Maybe he does go to church, maybe he doesn’t. In the end it is all about campaigning which is the one thing that he is very good at.



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joe gonzalez

posted September 30, 2010 at 12:27 pm


i think there’s something to be said in favor of the president when he states : ‘ I am a Christian by Choice.” Most Christians wouldn’t be able to say that. They are baptized early on and have little or no choice about their religious education. ” By Choice,’ on the other hand, implies having looked into the matter and decided, on personal terms. In Jesus’s time, not everyone received John’s Baptism. Only those that really wanted it. We would spare a lot of confusion in this already embattled world if people, after due consideration, would ‘ choose ‘ their religions.



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Henrietta22

posted September 30, 2010 at 12:48 pm


President Obama said, “I’m a Christian by choice, I follow the precepts of Jesus”. That is who he is folks, accept it or not, that’s your choice. He shouldn’t have to prove this to anyone, this is America not Iraq, etc. Nobody’s faith, spirituality, etc. should be be put under a microscope and examined by anyone. Like Nicole N. said it makes you look nutty.



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Paul

posted September 30, 2010 at 4:00 pm


The “Kingdom of Heaven” is not a Democracy, it’s a Monarch according to the Bible. So it doesn’t really matter how many people vote to say good people of all faiths will get in. Open a Bible and read John 14:6 and Epeshians 2:8-9….



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pagansister

posted September 30, 2010 at 9:57 pm


In the long and short run, who should care what religion President Obama follows? (or any other President for that matter?) He says he is a Christian, so what is the fuss about? Apparently there are,according to many posters, different versions of Christianity, and if the President doesn’t happen to meet that particular person’s version of Christianity, then obviously the current President couldn’t possibly be a Christian. What a crock! If President Obama was Muslim, so what? If he was Hindu, so what? If he was Jewish, so what? If he was Mormon, so what? And even better—if he was an Atheist/Agnostic, so what? A man or woman’s religion has nothing to do with how he/she runs this country.



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Rich in Mesquite

posted October 3, 2010 at 8:35 am


Pagansister, this name says a lot about you and I hope and pray that you will change it some day, hopefully the Holy Spirit will open your eyes and erase the lies that the devil has sold you and told you. In answer to your question what does it matter what religion or lack of religion our President believes in, actually it matters greatly. As Christians we are called to be Christ-like in every part of our lives, therefore as a political leader who is a Christian one must govern with the world view of a Christian, one must look at all isues through what they believe the will of God to be and to do this they must use scripture, ie the Bible, prayer, and wisdom from the people that surround them as long as it does not conflict with the scripture. The issues most Christians would base their questioning of the President’s faith on would be abortion (The murder of innocent life), homo-sexual marriage (not biblically supported), the giving of ethical waivers (saying he would not hire people with certain backgrounds, then doing the opposite once he was elected), his hyper-partisan rhetoric (attacking news organizations, attacking people by name who are opposed to his policies, ridiculing people for sticking to their guns and religion), his double-mindedness (demonizing wall street while brining many into the white house will wall street connections), his campaign promises that he has failed to fulfill (one of the biggest ones to me is the posting of bills for 5 days on the white house web site before he signs them) His and his advisers comments and behavior in dealing with “our” money (ie, don’t let a good crisis to go waste, the spending of over 2 trillion dollars his first year in office) his constant rhetoric calling out the rich (yet he was backed by many including George Soros, Oprah, Bill Gates and others who are not just rich but super rich, however you don’t hear him calling them or the Hollywood elites out?) (The issue is one of bias, favoritism, we are called as Christians to be impartial and not think more highly of one group than we do of others) Finally, the very principle that he holds to in the power of the state being supreme in education, health care, social services and the economy and the idea of re-distribution of wealth is unbiblical (the idea of charity in the Bible is supreme, however that is a personal choice in obedience to the holy spirit, interestingly enough those that believe the government should do everything aren’t very charitable with their personal funds and the President and his Vice-President are two prime examples. Yes taxed to fund essential services, public works, defense, education, and a safety net are legitimate but government to excess only creates misery and roadblocks to people and business. In summary, yes what faith a person follows matters much, especially if one Claims to be a Christian. If one is not influenced by Christ in their daily life and makes decisions which are at war with sound Christian doctrine, decisions which are inspired by Satan and not Christ, then that person cannot claim to be a Christian. Is Obama a true Christian, I don’t know, if he is then he needs a revival in his spiritual life. He needs to spend more time in the Bible and more time in humble prayer. We as Christians should pray that he does that and pray that his eyes will be opened.



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pagansister

posted October 3, 2010 at 7:57 pm


No one has sold me anything, Rich. First, I don’t believe in the devil, so that Christian created evil control tactic couldn’t have sold me anything. I spent the first 17 years of my life being raised by very loving parents, as a Methodist. At 17, I found that I couldn’t believe what they were telling me and being over 60 now, that isn’t likely to change. My 2 sisters are very devout, having stayed Christians, but it wasn’t and still isn’t for me. The 3 of us are close and get along fine—-I respect their beliefs and they mine. My husband and I raised our 2 children in the UU faith, and they and their spouses have made up their own minds about religion. As it should be. Like I said, religion is personal and personally, it makes no difference what religion a president of this country is. Separation of church and state is for a reason. Policies should not be based on a president’s faith. There is no religious test in this country for our leader, unlike some countries with a dictated religion.



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Grumpy Old Person

posted October 4, 2010 at 12:08 pm


Rich,
“As Christians we are called …”
1. “We” ain’t all Christians. Doesn’t America guarantee freedom of religion anymore?
2. Your comments were strange, considering they were directed to a pagan (and former Methodist).
3. “a political leader who is a Christian one must govern with the world view of a Christian”
Gee, and here all this time, I thought the President was the President of ALL Americans, not just the ‘good christian folk’.
4. “Bill Gates and others who are not just rich but super rich, however you don’t hear him calling them or the Hollywood elites out”
I don’t know who the “Hollywood elites” are, but Mr. Gates and his wife have convinced some 40 billionares (including Warren Buffet) to give major (as in $30,000,000,000.00) portions of their wealth to philanthropic causes. Get a clue and DO BETTER!



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Jonathan Gardiner

posted October 12, 2010 at 11:27 am


Rich,
I,Bless God for you and the hope and prayer you desire for,Pagansister.these scriptures came to mind after read Pagansister comments.The fool hath said in his heart,There is no God.corrupt are they,and have done abominable iniquity;there is none that doeth good.(Psalms.53:1.KJV) IF anyman among you seem to be religious,and bridleth not his tongue,but deceiveth his own heart,this man’s religion is vain.Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this:to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction,and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.(James.1:26-27).Most Christians in America and around the World should be belighted in hearing the confession of Faith in” Jesus Christ”.and encourage him to do the following.Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly,in all wisdom teaching and admonishing one another,in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.And whatever ye do in word or deed,do all in the name of the Lord Jesus,giving thanks to God and the Father by him.(Colossians.3:16-17.KJV).
May God continue to strengeth,and bring peace too America,through His chosen Leaders and people who fear him.



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Susan

posted October 15, 2010 at 2:55 pm


A lot of people claim to be a Christian and are not. Just because you call a rock a rock doesn’t mean it can’t be a pebble.
Sorry Obama, I am not buying it.



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Rick

posted October 18, 2010 at 9:17 am


Obama may be a Christian, but it is highly unlikely that he is a real Christian. He does not believe the Bible, he acts contrary to it. But, then most professing Christians are in the same boat. They reject Bible truth when it is made plain to them. Roman Catholics place their traditions above Scripture. Catholics and Episcopalians have ordained homosexuals, Baptists teach that you will burn in hell for eternity for rejecting Christ, pentecostals have fallen into spiritualism, Methodists have turned the Bible into fables. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone at Obama for his rejection of Scripture.



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