{"id":176,"date":"2009-01-08T13:15:16","date_gmt":"2009-01-08T13:15:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/windowsanddoors\/2009\/01\/neither-progressive-nor-revivi.html"},"modified":"2009-01-08T13:15:16","modified_gmt":"2009-01-08T13:15:16","slug":"neither-progressive-nor-revivi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/windowsanddoors\/2009\/01\/neither-progressive-nor-revivi.html","title":{"rendered":"Neither Progressive nor Reviving When Commenting on Gaza"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Requests were made that I respond to <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/progressiverevival\/2009\/01\/the-urgency-of-now---obama-mus.html\">Omid Safi&#8217;s Gaza post on Progressive Revival<\/a>.  Frankly, I hesitate to do so.  I have no doubt about either his integrity or the pain that moves him to write.  But, engaging people filled with so much sacred rage and moral certainty is pretty pointless &#8211; unless one enjoys the sound of their own rhetorical flourishes, which clearly Mr. Safi does.<br \/>\nUltimately and most ironically, Omid&#8217;s approach strikes me as the opposite of progressive &#8211; demanding that all wisdom and decency are on one side and that no alternative view is worthy of consideration.<br \/>\nWhat if Obama were to speak out as Safi desires, but did so in favor of the Israeli&#8217;s?  Would that mean that Obama was wrong?  Or, could it mean that Mr. Safi&#8217;s conclusions should be revisited in light of the unanticipated views held by someone both he and I respect?  That would be progressive.<br \/>\nI wrote earlier posts about my own <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/windowsanddoors\/2008\/12\/1-american-and-2-israeli-persp.html\">moral and strategic questions about this war<\/a>, opening up the possibility that even for those of us who think it was initially justified, it may no longer so and may never have been wise.  I have written about the importance of those who care most about events in Gaza  <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/windowsanddoors\/2009\/01\/making-peace-in-gaza-one-mind.html\">engaging each other based not only on their answers but also based on the questions <\/a>they have for those they most support.<br \/>\nWhere is that spirit to be found in Safi&#8217;s work?  Without that, it&#8217;s just one more round of verbal violence that makes us feel we are &#8220;doing our share&#8221; to support those doing the actual fighting on either side of this tragic war.  It the opposite of whatever we might mean by either spiritual or progressive.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Requests were made that I respond to Omid Safi&#8217;s Gaza post on Progressive Revival. Frankly, I hesitate to do so. I have no doubt about either his integrity or the pain that moves him to write. 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