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For the past 10 years, Shane Barnard and Shane Everett (better known as Shane & Shane) have been writing catchy pop songs that have a tendency to get stuck on the brain. While in there, inspirational and often challenging lyrics take root and bear out the fact that these guys are serious artists. Such is the case with the band’s latest album The One You Need.<\/em><\/p>\n

These days, Shane & Shane are spending more time working at their home church of the Oaks Fellowship in Red Oak, Texas where the pair teaches music classes within a larger leadership school. But that doesn’t mean they still aren’t having a significant impact through national recording projects and a busy touring schedule.<\/p>\n

Whole Notes recently caught up with Shane Barnard to talk about the new album, how the duo is settling down and finding purpose in its local church community:<\/p>\n

Chad Bonham: What are some of the changes within the music industry that have impacted the progress of the band since you guys hit the scene 10 years ago?<\/p>\n

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Shane Everett (left) and Shane Barnard (right)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Shane Barnard: For us in particular\u2014good or bad, I don\u2019t know\u2014we\u2019ve been in our own little world in Texas. We\u2019ve toured a lot over the past decade. For almost 10 years, we did close to 300 concerts a year. We had our noses to the grind and a lot of worship culture just flew over and we didn\u2019t know what it was. Sadly, we didn\u2019t go to church. We just loved the Lord and were going after Him and we were doing our best to share the Gospel wherever we were at. Almost a decade of worship culture happened and we missed it. One of the things that might be happening in our worship culture that\u2019s a good thing and has been happening in general is that it\u2019s becoming okay to be authentic lyrically. It\u2019s becoming okay to be vulnerable in worship. Maybe 15 or 20 years ago is wasn\u2019t as okay to say, \u201cI\u2019m desperate for You,\u201d in a worship song. That\u2019s a cool thing and a normal thing now.<\/p>\n

Bonham: It seems like you guys have evolved into more of a storytelling band as opposed to a traditional worship artist whose songs are exclusively meant for corporate settings.<\/p>\n

Barnard. No doubt. The last record we did was more of a worship record. We were at our church and we purposely wrote some songs for our church. It was awesome. But this one is a little bit more of a Gospel narrative\u2014songs about Jesus that are for the churched and the unchurched.<\/p>\n

Bonham: After all those years of heavy travel, it looks like you\u2019ve settled into a normal routine that includes more time spent at home. What led to this new way of doing things?<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a>Barnard: We are settling in to whole new worlds. We\u2019ve been involved with a church and it\u2019s been amazing to be there and have a small group and serve there. We lead worship once a month and work with college students. We have a leadership school there so we help with the music program and do songwriting classes and studio classes. Our families are growing so we have a pretty good amount of home time. We still travel quite a bit. We\u2019re trying to travel less. But this year we\u2019ll probably do 150 concerts, which is still too many but it\u2019s a lot less than it used to be. It\u2019s been a good season.<\/p>\n

Bonham: Being married to Bethany Dillon (also a recording artist) must provide some fun moments\u2014especially when you\u2019re in the creative process of writing and recording. Is she a sounding board for you?<\/p>\n

Barnhard: I use her as a sounding board constantly. It\u2019s been awesome. We get to lead worship at church together. We do a lot of things. She\u2019s touring with us now and singing. She hasn\u2019t done a concert in two years. She\u2019s been in mommy land and loving it. So she\u2019s kind of been out of the circuit a little bit, but she\u2019s still such a prolific writer.<\/p>\n

Bonham: The opening track on your new album, \u201cLiberty,\u201d seems appropriately titled in light of some of the creative liberties you guys took. Were you intentionally looking for ways to stretch yourself during the writing and recording process?<\/p>\n

Barnard: I don\u2019t know if we stretched ourselves on purpose. At the end of the day, we end up with the songs that the Lord gives us. But musically, we did want to take our time. Before we even went in to (produce) the record, we just wanted to have fun. We\u2019ve done a lot of projects that turned out okay, but it wasn\u2019t necessarily fun. It was like, \u201cWe\u2019ve got to get this done in two weeks.\u201d We were trying to sing at 3 a.m., in the morning. Everybody was at their wit\u2019s end. But on this CD, we just wanted to sprawl out, have our friends come and have fun. I feel like we really did that. We kept throwing out ideas. Sometimes we have a co-producer or an engineer but we didn\u2019t have that person this time. It was kind of a good thing for us. No idea was a bad idea. We just wanted to do whatever came to our heads and try it. We had an absolute blast. It was so fun.<\/p>\n

Bonham: A lot of the songs seemed to deal with the relational nature of our faith walk with God. Was that a running theme for the project?<\/p>\n

Barnard: I didn\u2019t write the record with a theme in mind. I\u2019ve written a lot of songs on a scripture or a passage that\u2019s really ministered to me. But the hinge of every song needs to be Christ. We\u2019ve been doing these songs live and it\u2019s been awesome to just be able to talk about Jesus. That\u2019s what we want to do. So that ended up being the theme, as Sunday School as that sounds. But that\u2019s the running theme I think.<\/p>\n

Bonham: \u201cFuture Version\u201d was one of the songs that really jumped out at me when I first listened to the album. What has been the reaction to that song so far?<\/p>\n

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Shane Everett (left) and Shane Barnard (right)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Barnard: We have been playing it live and we\u2019re seeing it impact our audiences. The reality is that God loves us just as much now as He\u2019ll ever love us. There\u2019s no future version that He\u2019s going to love more than He does now, or from the first moment He saved us, and the first moment He loved us. It\u2019s been an awesome thing to talk about and sing about. People are reacting to it in a good way. It\u2019s an elementary Gospel truth that the church forgets.<\/p>\n

Bonham: Why was it important for you write a song like \u201cBecause You\u2019re God,\u201d especially in a time when the Gospel message and the belief that Jesus is the only way to God is being daily challenged in our society and across the globe?<\/p>\n

Barnard: It\u2019s huge. There\u2019s a rise of universalism inside the Christian culture and outside the Christian culture. We\u2019ve got these communicators out there like Oprah who say that Jesus is a great way to get to Heaven but there are so many other good avenues to get to Heaven. That\u2019s not true and it\u2019s such a scary thing to sink into and buy into. It\u2019s crucial to proclaim the truth of the narrow gate, if you will. It\u2019s crucial. I don\u2019t know if was just having a moment with the Lord (when I wrote the song). But I come from a lost family and I\u2019ve had many conversations over the years and I\u2019ve seen forms of godliness and forms of religion. I know the issues that the world has with the exclusivity of Christ. It\u2019s hard to be exclusive, but it\u2019s the foundational truth of what we believe. And if we believe that Jesus is God then that requires us to believe what He said. Our faith hinges upon Him being the way and that\u2019s such great news. I hate for it to be an entrenching issue because that is such great news. Jesus is exclusive but he\u2019s also inclusive because He said, \u201cAnyone who will call on my name\u201d\u2014anyone from any race, from any background, from any kind of intellect\u2014\u201cAnyone who calls on my name, the narrow gate is open and I\u2019m willing to save.\u201d It\u2019s a very important message and we enjoy sharing it.<\/p>\n

To stay up on the latest news from Shane & Shane, visit their official website by clicking HERE<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n

And for a chance at one of five autographed copies of the band’s latest CDs, The One You Need, leave a comment about Shane & Shane at the end of this post. You can also click HERE<\/a> for more details.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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