{"id":9868,"date":"2011-11-19T19:45:52","date_gmt":"2011-11-20T00:45:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/watchwomanonthewall\/?p=9868"},"modified":"2012-02-24T17:32:20","modified_gmt":"2012-02-24T22:32:20","slug":"judge-not-the-misunderstood-11th-commandment-response-to-missusas-comment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/watchwomanonthewall\/2011\/11\/judge-not-the-misunderstood-11th-commandment-response-to-missusas-comment.html","title":{"rendered":"Judge Not! The misunderstood &#8220;11th&#8221; commandment (Response to missusa&#8217;s comment)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000\"><strong>Watchwoman<\/strong><\/span>: I received a comment from a very\u00a0ignorant\u00a0reader responding to an article entitled: \u00a0<strong>FOX\u2019s GLEE to show gay teen sex for first time &#8211; located at:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/watchwomanonthewall\/2011\/11\/foxs-glee-to-show-gay-teen-sex-for-first-time.html#ixzz1eCOphxVR\">http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/watchwomanonthewall\/2011\/11\/foxs-glee-to-show-gay-teen-sex-for-first-time.html#ixzz1eCOphxVR<\/a><\/strong>. \u00a0 Here is the comment: \u00a0&#8220;m<em>issusa&#8221; wrote:\u00a0&#8220;Your supercilious. Doesn&#8217;t the bible state that we shouldn&#8217;t judge. Your a sinner by the way too. What is the record of this sin as directed toward other believers with whom we have some minor disagreement or conflict? What have we given ourselves permission to say and do?&#8221;<\/em>\u00a0 This person, &#8220;missusa&#8221;, is not a very good speller. \u00a0She wrote: <em>&#8220;Your supercilious&#8221;<\/em> &#8212; &#8220;your&#8221; is spelled incorrectly, it&#8217;s should be &#8220;<em><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">You&#8217;re<\/span> supercilious&#8221;\u00a0<\/em>and she misspells &#8220;Your&#8221; again, writing, &#8220;<em>Your a sinner&#8221;<\/em>. \u00a0First, let me address that the sin of sodomy is no MINOR disagreement. \u00a0God calls it an abomination. \u00a0An\u00a0abomination\u00a0is not minor, now is it? \u00a0Next, let me address the second point: \u00a0As far as me being a sinner, that is correct. \u00a0In fact, we are all sinners. \u00a0We all have been born sinners &#8212; every human being ever born, all have been born into\u00a0original\u00a0sin. \u00a0{ [Romans 3:23] \u00a0For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. } \u00a0We are not bent towards doing good naturally, as liberal, ignorant unbelievers try to pawn off onto immature and ignorant believers and unbelievers as an absolute truth, but we are born loving to enjoy sinful behavior. \u00a0That is why we need a Savior Jesus Christ. \u00a0No one is perfect. \u00a0All are born heading right towards hell. \u00a0Without Jesus Christ, every man, woman and child ever born would be headed to hell and end up there without Jesus Christ&#8217;s sacrifice. \u00a0That is why we all should repent and accept Jesus Christ as our Messiah. \u00a0Read the article at this enclosed hyperlink and be saved! Halt your trip to hell today. \u00a0Don&#8217;t delay another moment! \u00a0Where you will spend your eternal life depends upon your reading the most important message of your life! \u00a0\u2192\u00a0Click the following \u2192 \u00a0<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/watchwomanonthewall\/?p=4928\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;Inspirational. Do you know for sure?&#8221; posted on Tuesday July 26, 2011 located at\u00a0http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/watchwomanonthewall\/?p=4928<\/a><\/strong><strong>\u00a0. \u00a0<\/strong>Next point, about this poor ignoramus who lacks the ability to understand about the real truth of God&#8217;s Word about judging. \u00a0Read on and learn the truth about judging and how uninformed &#8220;missusa&#8221; is, read the article posted below. \u00a0And the final\u00a0point, it is not about what we have given ourselves permission to say and do, but about what God has given us permission to say and do. \u00a0Start by conforming with the Ten Commandments and then daily, without fail, read and study the Bible, for in studying the Bible is how we are made clean. \u00a0{ [John 15:3] \u00a0Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. } \u25ac\u00a0<strong>Donna Calvin<\/strong><\/p>\n<pre><strong>::~:~::<\/strong><\/pre>\n<h2>The misunderstood 11th commandment: Thou shall not judge<\/h2>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" style=\"float: left\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn3.fotosearch.com\/bthumb\/UNN\/UNN002\/u18788364.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"134\" height=\"170\" \/>Regardless of the level of theological sophistication, we can always be sure the critics &#8220;know&#8221; one thing: The Bible says that we should not judge one another. Anyone who would do so is clearly being un-Christian. Such obtuse reasoning is employed against Christians who offer a negative commentary on certain cultural trends, behaviors or lifestyles. Still, I wonder how many people have taken this concept to its logical conclusion?<\/p>\n<p>We now hear that in our modern times, John 3:16 has been replaced by Matthew 7:1, as the most often quoted scriptural passage. This is clearly because we have taken the focus off of what the Creator has done for us, and placed it on the creatures do for themselves. We have taken the emphasis off of grace, and have instead made the approval of moral pluralism the quintessential virtue of the age.<\/p>\n<p>The very idea that all judging is wrong, is an illegitimate synthesis between Christianity, moral relativism, and the contemporary perspective on &#8220;tolerance.&#8221; These ideas have been wedded together to conjure up witch&#8217;s brew of self-contradictory sophistry.<\/p>\n<p>Christianity has traditionally viewed &#8220;tolerance&#8221; through a prism of scriptural precept that parallels the garden variety dictionary definition. The scriptures say things like, &#8220;Love endures all things,&#8221; and &#8220;As much as it depends on you, live peacefully with all men.&#8221; The traditional definition is that &#8220;tolerance&#8221; is graciously enduring those who you disagree with.<\/p>\n<p>Today, &#8220;tolerance&#8221; has been reconstructed to mean something entirely different. Essentially it means that all ideas, lifestyles and truth claims, are deemed equally valid. Christian author and speaker Josh McDowell refers to this phenomenon as &#8220;negative tolerance&#8221; (permission) versus &#8220;positive tolerance&#8221; (approval). One can readily see how this new definition of tolerance circles back to the claim made about judging. If nobody has a superior moral position, then nobody has the standing to &#8220;judge&#8221; anything in terms of ethical hierarchy.<\/p>\n<p>But does the use of Matthew 7:1, as a stand-alone quotation, bring contextual justice to the point Jesus is making? Of course not. Later in the passage, Christ refers to certain people unable or unwilling to assimilate spiritual things. He refers to them figuratively as &#8220;pigs&#8221; and &#8220;dogs.&#8221; That sounds a bit like judging to me! In the book of John, Jesus talks of rendering a &#8220;righteous judgment,&#8221; rather than none at all. The point was never that we should not make moral judgments, or employ an ethical hierarchy in being discreet about evaluating &#8220;right&#8221; and &#8220;wrong.&#8221; The idea was that there should be no &#8220;double-standards.&#8221; We should not judge others by a standard we would not want to be judged with ourselves. This is how we avoid &#8220;judgmentalism&#8221; and cronin fault-finding. We are exhorted to correct our own hypocrisies before reforming the world.<\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 200px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/5\/5d\/KJV-King-James-Version-Bible-first-edition-title-page-1611.jpg\/200px-KJV-King-James-Version-Bible-first-edition-title-page-1611.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"304\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Title Page of the King James Bible. 400 Years Old in 2011. The title page&#039;s central text is: &quot;THE HOLY BIBLE, Conteyning the Old Testament, AND THE NEW: Newly Translated out of the Originall tongues: &amp; with the former Translations diligently compared and revised, by his Majesties speciall Comandement. Appointed to be read in Churches. Imprinted at London by Robert Barker, Printer to the Kings most Excellent Majestie. ANNO DOM. 1611 .&quot; At bottom is: &quot;C. Boel fecit in Richmont.&quot;.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Now that is very different from telling someone that they shouldn&#8217;t dare to call anything wrong. In fact, such reasoning will ultimately lead to calling evil good and good evil. This is because evil cannot be called evil, since such labeling is judgmental. Good is considered evil, because those who are endeavoring to do good by calling something else wrong, are guilty of judging. How could any court of justice operate if all judgment without exception were considered wrong? All criticisms of anything would have to be withheld on the basis that such critiques are judgmental in nature.<\/p>\n<p>Christian apologist Greg Koukl offers us the perfect antidote to this apparent logical dilemma. He says that we must be egalitarian in terms persons, but elitist in reference to ideas. That principle is embodied in the old ecclesiastical adage that we are to hate the sin, yet love the sinner. This is a perfect expression of &#8220;righteous judgment,&#8221; but it is a posture that would be condemned today as grossly judgmental. And yet in effect, is it any different from saying, &#8220;We support the troops, but oppose the war (We have concern for the person, but disapprove of the cause)?&#8221; The latter position is assumed to be accepted as valid without question, despite the fact that the former is seen as intolerant. Interesting paradox.<\/p>\n<p>Last year an editorial writer to my local newspaper made a preposterous claim. He declared that the only hope for the peaceful co-existence of mankind, was that each of us must accept and respect the other guy&#8217;s truth. We can&#8217;t be dogmatic and say the other guy is wrong. But in articulating such a standard, the writer himself is engaged in judging, not to mention being dogmatic. Applying Koukl&#8217;s axiom to this situation, we might say that all people deserve respect because of their unique position as reflecting the image of God. But in the process of evaluating the cogency of ideas, the writer clearly is confused, as he seeks to reconstruct the term &#8220;truth,&#8221; by making it tantamount to opinion.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" style=\"float: left\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn3.fotosearch.com\/bthumb\/UNZ\/UNZ001\/u11916466.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"120\" height=\"170\" \/>The idea that we can never judge about anything is patently absurd. To say that we can never judge is to wander aimlessly. The scriptures tell us that we should reprove each other, speaking the truth in love. What our society lacks is righteous judgment. What we have an abundance of is knit-picking and indifference. Neither of those two alternatives promotes justice and righteousness.<\/p>\n<p>More Articles From\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.alainsnewsletter.com\/contrib.php?name=Robert%20E.%20Meyer\">Robert E. Meyer<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Source:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.alainsnewsletter.com\/article.php?id=454\">http:\/\/www.alainsnewsletter.com\/article.php?id=454<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/watchwomanonthewall\/?p=9270\"><strong>Read also Watchwoman&#8217;s Previous Post: &#8211; FOX\u2019s GLEE to show gay teen sex for first time<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/watchwomanonthewall\/?p=9270<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Read also:\u00a0\u00a0<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/watchwomanonthewall\/?p=4928\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;Inspirational. Do you know for sure?&#8221; posted on Tuesday July 26, 2011 located at\u00a0http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/watchwomanonthewall\/?p=4928<\/a><\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Watchwoman: I received a comment from a very\u00a0ignorant\u00a0reader responding to an article entitled: \u00a0FOX\u2019s GLEE to show gay teen sex for first time &#8211; located at:\u00a0http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/watchwomanonthewall\/2011\/11\/foxs-glee-to-show-gay-teen-sex-for-first-time.html#ixzz1eCOphxVR. \u00a0 Here is the comment: \u00a0&#8220;missusa&#8221; wrote:\u00a0&#8220;Your supercilious. Doesn&#8217;t the bible state that we shouldn&#8217;t judge. Your a sinner by the way too. 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