{"id":14326,"date":"2012-04-26T17:03:37","date_gmt":"2012-04-26T21:03:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/watchwomanonthewall\/?p=14326"},"modified":"2012-10-13T15:06:27","modified_gmt":"2012-10-13T19:06:27","slug":"joel-osteen-mormon-romney-a-brother-in-christ-comments-from-carey-furthermore","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/watchwomanonthewall\/2012\/04\/joel-osteen-mormon-romney-a-brother-in-christ-comments-from-carey-furthermore.html","title":{"rendered":"Joel Osteen: Mormon Romney &#8220;a brother in Christ&#8221; (Comments from Carey + &#8220;FURTHERMORE&#8221;)"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_14328\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-14328\" style=\"width: 100px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/244\/2012\/04\/Joel-Osteen.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-14328\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/244\/2012\/04\/Joel-Osteen.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-14328\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Joel Osteen<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/244\/2012\/04\/Carey-Masci-better-photo.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-14327\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/244\/2012\/04\/Carey-Masci-better-photo.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"157\" height=\"220\" \/><\/a>Carey Masci, President of the Lake County Tea Party, Talk Show Host of America&#8217;s News &amp; Views, and Editor of &#8220;Furthermore&#8221; asks, &#8220;Did you hear that Joel Osteen says that Mitt is indeed a &#8220;Christian&#8221;? &#8211; <em>[Joel Osteen: Mormon Romney &#8220;a brother in Christ&#8221; per CNN Reports]<\/em> &#8211; That&#8217;s amazing to me. He says that Mormons accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior, and that He is their only Lord. I&#8217;m confused. What&#8217;s going on? [It&#8217;s] The last days brother&#8230;&#8230;For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect&#8211;if that were possible. Joel Osteen has slid down the much and mire and he is one to distance yourself from.\u00a0 Go to his church when you want to feel good, not to know the truth.\u00a0 In fact save the gas money, get a massage and a hot shower it would do the same thing as his church.\u00a0 You will feel good and clean but inside you are the same old man,&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Read More: <em>Joel Osteen: Mormon Romney &#8220;a brother in Christ&#8221; per CNN Reports<\/em><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/americanvisionnews.com\/3072\/joel-osteen-says-mormon-romney-a-brother-in-christ\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/americanvisionnews.com\/3072\/joel-osteen-says-mormon-romney-a-brother-in-christ<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h1><\/h1>\n<h1><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/244\/2012\/02\/Microphone-on-the-air.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-12258\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/244\/2012\/02\/Microphone-on-the-air.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"143\" height=\"170\" \/><\/a>FURTHERMORE \u2013The news letter of the radio show America News and Views with Bob Murphy &amp; Chairman Dale Fellows<\/strong><\/h1>\n<p>Friends I am just so disheartened by what I am seeing going on with our country.\u00a0 How many Tea Parties have organized, how many other events put on to educate about the erosion of our freedoms, how many emails, blogs, news shows, radio shows, magazines and all the other forms of media and yet where are we?\u00a0 Still in the same place, or maybe even a worse place.\u00a0 What is the sense of all of this if we don\u2019t put into play what we have learned?\u00a0 Our supposed Republican candidate for president has been pre-chosen, Agenda 21 is proceeding and Obama Care may be here to stay.\u00a0 How have we allowed this?\u00a0 Where are the Tea Parties?<\/p>\n<p>Last newsletter I included comments from various people I met.\u00a0 I want to do that again but this time I will follow it up with a brief comment.\u00a0 All of these statements are from people I know.<\/p>\n<p>Dave owns a restaurant.\u00a0 He said until people unify and stand up to the government NOTHING will change.\u00a0 Everyone needs to stop paying taxes and bring government to their senses.\u00a0 Until then no president or anyone can change what is going on.<\/p>\n<p>I cannot agree more.\u00a0 YOU are as much of the blame for government taking away your rights as government is.\u00a0 You follow their rules they will keep making them.\u00a0 And until everyone says enough it will continue.<\/p>\n<p>Michelle who runs a small business made this observation. She wants to know what is the Republican Party thinking and what is wrong with the people for voting for Mitt?\u00a0 Mitt couldn\u2019t beat McCain and McCain lost to Obama but now we vote for Mitt the second place finisher in \u201908 and think he can now beat Obama. If someone loses in an election they shouldn\u2019t be able to run again.<\/p>\n<p>My comment:\u00a0 In the past we have had candidates that lost, run again and won.\u00a0 The 2 that come to mind are Nixon who lost in 1960 only to run again in \u201968 and win.\u00a0 In 1976 Reagan lost to President Ford but won in 1980.\u00a0 But those two examples are far different than with Mitt.\u00a0 With Nixon almost a decade had passed and he faced a different opponent.\u00a0 With Reagan he was facing an incumbent Republican president in \u201976 and in \u201980 when he won he faced a sitting president that was failing miserably plus Reagan had built on his base from \u201976, he had charisma, was a unifier, and Republicans as well as Democrats supported him.<\/p>\n<p>Mitt has none of this going for him, zero!\u00a0 So yes what are the people and the GOP thinking?<\/p>\n<p>A pastor who is a good friend of mine said this after Santorum dropped out when I asked if she would support Paul.\u00a0 Yes, there are only two candidates that I cannot and will not support, Obama and Romney.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s what I keep telling everyone, Romney won\u2019t beat Obama, the Christian Conservative base will sit.<\/p>\n<p>I will conclude with this.\u00a0 It seems as if America is trying hard to push God out of our government and it\u2019s coming from both sides, the D\u2019s and the R\u2019s.\u00a0 I understand what the Constitution says but it\u2019s meaning has been completely spun to rid God from our laws and nation to usher in man&#8217;s rule.<\/p>\n<div><em>Congress shall make no laws respecting an establishment of religion or restricting the free exercise thereof\u2026<\/em>\u00a0 God and Christianity is not a religion.<\/div>\n<p>And\u2026..<\/p>\n<p>*When you no longer govern by religion you govern by man<\/p>\n<p>When you govern by man with no religion you get communism<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s where we are at now; we have a choice to be governed by man or God&#8217;s laws. We can see what is happening to our nation. I am not judging but witnessing the arrogance of Obama\u2019s ungodly leadership where he trumps all. And we can see what happens when a person has a false religion because he waffles back and forth as Mitt has.<\/p>\n<p>This nation needs to return to its true religious roots or we will never stabilize.<\/p>\n<p>Carey Masci<\/p>\n<p>*OK I know what you are thinking but I use religion in a broad sense not just one particular religion, and religion can be substituted for God and or Christian.<\/p>\n<p>Carey Masci<\/p>\n<p>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_12260\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-12260\" style=\"width: 180px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/244\/2012\/02\/Bob-Murphy.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-12260\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/244\/2012\/02\/Bob-Murphy.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"180\" height=\"233\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-12260\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bob Murphy, co-host and political analyst<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Friends,<\/p>\n<p>We do have our work cut out for us.\u00a0 Our presumptive Republican nominee for president Romney is not a favorite of many within the party but our sights should be set on defeating Obama.<\/p>\n<p>And the Democrats they will be trying to ride the slight up tick in the economy to victory in November.\u00a0 Lets not forget when did our economic woes really take hold?\u00a0 In 2006 when the Democrats won big.\u00a0 And when did things start to stabilize?\u00a0 In 2010 when the Republicans were voted back in in large numbers.<\/p>\n<p>We need to educate people on these facts.<\/p>\n<p>Your Friend,<br \/>\nBob Murphy<\/p>\n<p>To find out who was on the March 29th show and to listen in click here:<\/p>\n<p>April 12, 2102 show with special guest Jason Wuliger<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/64.199.31.202\/welw\/America%20News%20%26%20Views\/120412ANV.mp3\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/64.199.31.202\/welw\/America%20News%20%26%20Views\/120412ANV.mp3<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Please tune to WELW 1330 AM this Thursday and every Thursday at 5pm to hear the news the liberal media won&#8217;t tell you.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">~\u2020~<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">Posted by Donna Calvin \u2014 Thursday, April 26, 2012<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">~\u2020~<\/p>\n<p><strong>Please share this Watchwoman post on your Facebook page, Linkedin, Google+1, Twitter to all your friends, Please click \u201cLike\u201d, Share, and Leave Comments.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Visit Word Warriorette, a free Yahoo Group, and subscribe to be notified (one email a day) of new posts on Watchwoman.<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/groups.yahoo.com\/group\/WordWarriorette\/\">http:\/\/groups.yahoo.com\/group\/WordWarriorette\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">~\u2020~<\/p>\n<h6><em>DISCLAIMER: Beliefnet puts paid advertisements on \u201cWatchwoman on the Wall\u201d blog site including some that would never be approved of by the King James Bible, Pastor Ernie Sanders of Doers of the Word Church, What\u2019s Right-What\u2019s Left Radio Ministry, the Voice of the Christian Resistance, Geauga County Right to Life and Donna Calvin.\u00a0 We at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wrwl.org\/\">www.WRWL.org<\/a> do not condone, endorse, adhere to, practice or believe in many of the topics and some of what other bloggers promote or their religions at Beliefnet.\u00a0 However, Mrs. Calvin has no control of what Beliefnet displays.\u00a0\u00a0 She blogs at Beliefnet because she is in the missionary field ministering to true believers posting articles and commentaries informing pro-life, conservative Christians of recent anti-Christian acts and hostile legislation to God\u2019s Agenda and His Will for the world.\u00a0 Hopefully, unbelievers will read these along with the salvation message of Jesus Christ as written in the Gospel of John, Chapter 3, according to the King James Bible, and be saved.\u00a0 A missionary must go into the unbelievers\u2019 territory to reach them.\u00a0 Her mission is to Proclaim Warning to a Nation that has forgotten their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the only Truth, the Life, and the only Way to the One God the Father.<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Read more: <a href=\"..\/?p=4928\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/watchwomanonthewall\/?p=4928<\/a><\/em><\/h6>\n<p align=\"center\">~\u2020~<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Carey Masci, President of the Lake County Tea Party, Talk Show Host of America&#8217;s News &amp; Views, and Editor of &#8220;Furthermore&#8221; asks, &#8220;Did you hear that Joel Osteen says that Mitt is indeed a &#8220;Christian&#8221;? &#8211; [Joel Osteen: Mormon Romney &#8220;a brother in Christ&#8221; per CNN Reports] &#8211; That&#8217;s amazing to me. 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