{"id":6658,"date":"2006-07-30T01:16:04","date_gmt":"2006-07-30T01:16:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/viamedia\/2006\/07\/shoving-off.html"},"modified":"2006-07-30T01:16:04","modified_gmt":"2006-07-30T01:16:04","slug":"shoving-off","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/viamedia\/2006\/07\/shoving-off.html","title":{"rendered":"Shoving Off"},"content":{"rendered":"

We’ll keep this post flowing with links to stories about the events on a boat in Pittsburgh today, beginning with this WaPo story by Michelle Boorstein.<\/a><\/p>\n

The theological problems are not really dealt with in the story – why <\/em>the Church would say these are invalid ordinations even if the initial ordinations were carried out by a validly ordained male bishop (which is something I wouldn’t take for granted, despite the group’s claims that it was so.)<\/p>\n

The language is still "Church officials" say that the ordinations are not valid. There is just one layer missing there, that implies that again, this is a matter of contemporarly opinion. Is it really so problematic to simply say, "Catholic Church teaching and canon law…"<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

We’ll keep this post flowing with links to stories about the events on a boat in Pittsburgh today, beginning with this WaPo story by Michelle Boorstein. 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