{"id":6633,"date":"2006-08-01T19:49:06","date_gmt":"2006-08-01T19:49:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/viamedia\/2006\/08\/on-cheap-shots.html"},"modified":"2006-08-01T19:49:06","modified_gmt":"2006-08-01T19:49:06","slug":"on-cheap-shots","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/viamedia\/2006\/08\/on-cheap-shots.html","title":{"rendered":"On cheap shots"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In the discussion of the Pittsburgh 12 at various Catholic blogs there&#8217;s been quite a bit of cheap shooting going around about these women&#8217;s ages and even appearance.&nbsp; It&#8217;s too bad, because there&#8217;s plenty to hash out and critique in this showboating affair without screaming about grannies and grey hair.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s perfectly legit to point out the ages of the participants and supporters as a way of understanding and explaining the &quot;movement,&quot; such as it is, and to discuss why this is, indeed, a cause for the older Catholics and why younger Catholic women seem totally disiniterested. But then, as a commenter on another blog pointed out, there&#8217;s a point at which the snipes and sarcastic swipes become the equivalent to comments that attempt to de-legitimize say, the Catholic hierarchy &#8217;cause it&#8217;s a bunch of old white guys or young pretty traditionalist priests who have an affinity for lace. <\/p>\n<p>The issues are interesting enough, the challenges tough enough without resorting to cheap shots. <\/p>\n<p>Heaping scorn upon falsehoods and ripping apart weak arguments with everything in the rhetorical arsenal bag&#8230;good. It&#8217;s what we do. But making the crux of your &quot;argument&quot; mockery of &quot;grannies,&quot; who may have chosen those shoddy arguments but didn&#8217;t choose their age&#8230;not so good.<\/p>\n<p>Oh, by the way&#8230;I had my &quot;Questions I wish reporters would ask&quot; yesterday. <a href=\"http:\/\/frmartinfox.blogspot.com\/2006\/07\/questions-to-ask-women-priests.html\">Fr. Martin has his own set (and makes a similar point to the one I just did.)<\/a><\/p>\n<p>In addition, Fr. Fox has an intelligent, probing <a href=\"http:\/\/frmartinfox.blogspot.com\/2006\/08\/can-church-excommunicate-pro-abort.html\">post on the challenges of excommunicating a pro-abortion politician<\/a>, PLUS an account of, er a <a href=\"http:\/\/frmartinfox.blogspot.com\/2006\/08\/scandal-in-vandalia.html\">meeting of minds<\/a> with Rich Leonardi, <a href=\"http:\/\/richleonardi.blogspot.com\/2006\/08\/dayton-style-ribs.html\">(who has his own version)<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/cinecon.blogspot.com\/\">Victor Morton.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the discussion of the Pittsburgh 12 at various Catholic blogs there&#8217;s been quite a bit of cheap shooting going around about these women&#8217;s ages and even appearance.&nbsp; It&#8217;s too bad, because there&#8217;s plenty to hash out and critique in this showboating affair without screaming about grannies and grey hair. 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