{"id":6604,"date":"2006-08-04T13:45:37","date_gmt":"2006-08-04T13:45:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/viamedia\/2006\/08\/ouch-1.html"},"modified":"2006-08-04T13:45:37","modified_gmt":"2006-08-04T13:45:37","slug":"ouch-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/viamedia\/2006\/08\/ouch-1.html","title":{"rendered":"Ouch"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>You may recall Charlotte Allen&#8217;s <em>LA Times<\/em>&nbsp; op-ed in which she lays out the fruit of liberalism in contemporary Protestantism. Her critique was met with a response ad from the Episcopal Bishop of LA, who vaunted their democratic ways, etc. Charlotte <a href=\"http:\/\/www.firstthings.com\/onthesquare\/?p=348\">scores again, noting the decidedly undemocratic moves Bishop Bruno and his fellows are making against the San Joaquin bishop, who has requested alternate oversight for his diocese.<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Who gets to keep the beautiful old church building has always been the burning issue as scores of conservative Episcopalian congregations have broken off from their liberal dioceses over the past thirty years, usually over the issue of female priests and bishops, for which there seems to be no biblical authority. The dioceses usually win\u2014but California judges ruling in these disputes have been increasingly inclined to rely on general principles of property law (such as who\u2019s paying the bills) rather than what the bishop says (see <a href=\"http:\/\/www.livingchurch.org\/publishertlc\/viewarticle.asp?ID=2255\"><u><span style=\"color: #660000\">this article<\/span><\/u><\/a> in the <em>Living Church<\/em>). Furthermore, this is the first time that entire dioceses have effectively split off from the national body\u2014and there is no precedent for turning over diocesan property to the national church.<\/p>\n<p>So the bishop of California, William T. Swing, working in concert with Bruno and the bishops of San Diego and northern California, has come up with a novel theory designed to oust Schofield fast: The four bishops are arguing that Schofield intends to \u201cabandon the communion of this Church [that is, the Episcopal Church USA].\u201d And hell, Swing told the <em>Living Church,<\/em> it\u2019s \u201cunfathomable\u201d that anyone would even try to retain church property after leaving the church.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You may recall Charlotte Allen&#8217;s LA Times&nbsp; op-ed in which she lays out the fruit of liberalism in contemporary Protestantism. 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The Catholicism comes from her side. Amy grew up in a number of places - Indiana - Washington, DC - Lubbock Texas - Arlington, Virginia - DeKalb, Illinois - Lawrence, Kansas - and Knoxville, Tennessee, where the family settled in 1973. She attended Knoxville Catholic High School, then the University of Tennessee where she majored in history. She received an MA in Church History from Vanderbilt University, where she wrote a thesis on the changing role of women in 19th century American Protestantism, and the ways Scripture was used to justify those changes. She worked as as a teacher in Catholic high schools and a Parish Director of Religious Education and started writing for the diocesan press - the Florida Catholic - in 1988. Amy has written columns for Our Sunday Visitor and Catholic News Service at times over the past twenty years. Her articles have been published in venues ranging from Our Sunday Visitor to the New York Times to Commonweal. 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