{"id":5777,"date":"2006-09-17T20:42:29","date_gmt":"2006-09-17T20:42:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/viamedia\/2006\/09\/open-thread-angelus-etc.html"},"modified":"2006-09-17T20:42:29","modified_gmt":"2006-09-17T20:42:29","slug":"open-thread-angelus-etc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/viamedia\/2006\/09\/open-thread-angelus-etc.html","title":{"rendered":"Open Thread: Angelus, etc"},"content":{"rendered":"

Use this thread to comment on what the Pope said in the Angelus address today, as well as anything else he or his people have said in relation to the topic. <\/p>\n

Links:<\/p>\n

The Pope’s original address<\/a> in Regensburg (Vatican English translation)<\/p>\n

(I keep posting that to make sure people are reading it, and passing along the link)<\/em><\/p>\n

Cardinal Bertone’s Saturday statement<\/a><\/p>\n

Text of today’s address<\/a> (Zenit English translation)<\/p>\n

Italian original from Vatican website<\/a><\/p>\n

Charles Collins’ Vatican Radio report on the Angelus<\/a><\/p>\n

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At this time, I wish also to add that I am deeply sorry for the reactions in some countries to a few passages of my address at the University of Regensburg, which were considered offensive to the sensibility of Muslims. <\/p>\n

These in fact were a quotation from a medieval text, which do not in any way express my personal thought. <\/p>\n

Yesterday, the cardinal secretary of state published a statement in this regard in which he explained the true meaning of my words. I hope that this serves to appease hearts and to clarify the true meaning of my address, which in its totality was and is an invitation to frank and sincere dialogue, with great mutual respect. <\/p>\n

Now, before reciting the Marian prayer, I wish to reflect on two recent and important liturgical feasts: the feast of the Exaltation of the Holy Cross, celebrated on Sept. 14, and the memorial of Our Lady of Sorrows, celebrated the day after. These two liturgical celebrations summarize in a visual manner the image of the Crucifixion, which represents the Virgin Mary at the foot of the Cross, according to the description of the Evangelist John, the only Apostle who stayed with Jesus at the hour of his death. <\/p>\n

But, what does it mean to "exalt" the Cross? Is it not, perhaps, scandalous to venerate an offensive gibbet? The Apostle Paul says: "We preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles" (1 Corinthians 1:23). Christians, however, do not exalt any cross, but that cross which Jesus sanctified with his sacrifice, fruit and testimony of immense love. <\/p>\n

Christ, on the cross, shed all his blood to free humanity from the slavery of sin and death. For this reason, the cross was transformed from a sign of malediction to a sign of blessing, from a symbol of death to a symbol par excellence of the love that is able to overcome hatred and violence and that generates immortal life. "O Crux, ave spes unica! O cross, our only hope," sings the liturgy. <\/p>\n

The evangelist writes: At the foot of the Cross was Mary (cf. John 19:25-27). Her sorrow is one with that of her son. It is a sorrow full of faith and love. On Calvary the Virgin participated in the salvific power of Christ’s sorrow, uniting her "fiat" with that of her son. <\/p>\n

Dear brothers and sisters: Spiritually united to Our Lady of Sorrows, let us also renew our "yes" to God, who chose the way of the cross to save us. It is a great mystery which still takes place until the end of the world and that also calls for our cooperation. May Mary help us to pick up our cross every day and to follow Jesus faithfully on the path of obedience, sacrifice and love. <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Fr. Z’s perspective, with translation notes:<\/a><\/p>\n

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Yes, he spoke of the reaction of muslims to his address in Regensburg. He said that he was "vivamente rammaricato" … "deeply regretful" about the reactions<\/strong> <\/em>resultings over his use of a brief medieval text which, he stressed, did not express, in any way, his personal opinion of muslims. He underscored that he was citing a medieval text.<\/p>\n

Benedict said that Card. Bertone, the new Secretary of State stated already the "real sense" ("autentico senso") of his words. He hoped that people would pay attention to what he actually said. He added that what we need is frank and sicnere dialog with great reciprocal respect. He said that the whole text <\/em>was and is an invitation to dialog.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00abSono vivamente rammaricato per le reazioni suscitate da un breve passo del mio discorso all\u2019Universita di Ratisbona, ritenuto offensivo per la sensibilita dei credenti musulmani\u00bb.<\/p>\n

Benedict did not use the stronger phrase "chiedere scusa", or "apologize". He did not <\/em>use the construction "mi<\/strong><\/em> sono rammaricato" (rammaricarsi) , which would have meant "I am sorry about" <\/em>something. He used "vivamente rammaricato" or "deeply sorry" but in the sense of "regretful" or "disappointed" about the reactions following his speech.<\/strong> In fact, the phrase "sono vivamente rammaricato per le reazioni" could<\/u><\/em> really mean "I am deeply wounded by the reactions". [UPDATE: The official English translation released after the fact says: "<\/span><\/strong>I am deeply sorry for the reactions"]<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

It is true that he distanced himself from that text. He said that Paleologus\u2019s words were not his sentiments. You can say<\/em> that this was an apology if you add all the elements together<\/strong>, but \u2026. there it is. It won\u2019t be enough, of course, for many (for the "thick"). It can be interpreted as an apology and, in a sense, it MUST<\/span> be. There are in Islamic countries Christian communities in grave peril. Had the Pope not said something like this, those people would be in even greater danger. He had to apologize without apologizing while keeping his agenda on the table.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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