{"id":5113,"date":"2005-07-20T12:27:23","date_gmt":"2005-07-20T12:27:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/viamedia\/2005\/07\/poor-joel.html"},"modified":"2005-07-20T12:27:23","modified_gmt":"2005-07-20T12:27:23","slug":"poor-joel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/viamedia\/2005\/07\/poor-joel.html","title":{"rendered":"Poor Joel"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Down in the comments box and in my email box, there&#8217;s a tiny bit of grumbling about the Catholics dumping on Joel Osteen. Well, what we&#8217;ve said here is nothing compared to what some of his fellow Protestants have said. Some links for you, most of which include more links to more critiques:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.internetmonk.com\/archives\/2005\/01\/019842.html\">The Internet Monk here<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.internetmonk.com\/cgi-bin\/mt-tb.cgi?__mode=view&amp;entry_id=19842\">here<\/a><\/p>\n<p>From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianunplugged.com\/osteenwordfaith.htm\">&quot;Apprising Ministries&quot; &#8211; which takes a dim view of Purpose-Driven Life, emergent church stuff, too.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.discernment.org\/LeavenLakewood.htm\">This minister who&#8217;s hostile to most televangelists, too. <\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.challies.com\/archives\/000768.php\">A lengthy critique and an informative discussion.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>What we call &quot;evangelicalism&quot; is actually quite diverse, an umbrella term that covers, inadequately, beliefs and churches that are often at odds with each other, to tell the truth. It&#8217;s rather endlessly fascinating.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/elbourne.org\/archives\/2005\/04\/04\/your-best-life-now\/\">A couple more critical blog posts here<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/elbourne.org\/archives\/2005\/02\/24\/did-the-sbc-boot-osteen\/#comments\">here.<\/a> (the latter has a fascinating comment unraveling the doings and aspirations of Osteen&#8217;s fellow preacher brother-in-law.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Down in the comments box and in my email box, there&#8217;s a tiny bit of grumbling about the Catholics dumping on Joel Osteen. Well, what we&#8217;ve said here is nothing compared to what some of his fellow Protestants have said. 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