{"id":4218,"date":"2006-03-10T12:15:54","date_gmt":"2006-03-10T12:15:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/viamedia\/2006\/03\/back-and-forth.html"},"modified":"2006-03-10T12:15:54","modified_gmt":"2006-03-10T12:15:54","slug":"back-and-forth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/viamedia\/2006\/03\/back-and-forth.html","title":{"rendered":"Back and forth."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s actually the kind of gig I like &#8211; back and forth within 24 hours. <\/p>\n<p>Very nice talk at Alleghenny College last night &#8211; many thanks to Fr. Mark Hoffman, who invited and hosted me. I&#8217;d say there were around 200-250 people there, and I did the usual DVC thing, but really emphasizing some basics that have really been pressing on me the past few months:<\/p>\n<p>-Details are interesting but unimportant. You want to quibble about esoterica in DVC in relation to other books&#8230;be my guest. That&#8217;s really not the point. The point is that this is silly nonsense, the acceptance of which exposes one&#8217;s ignorance and gullibility. <\/p>\n<p>-You want to learn about early Christianity? Good. Then read the New Testament, The Shepherd of Hermas, the Didache, the letters of Ignatius of Antioch, Tertullian, Justin Martyr&#8230;.etc. Then let&#8217;s talk!<\/p>\n<p>-Illogic. I am big on this one &#8211; Jesus is a mere &quot;mortal&quot; &#8211; then why is his daughter and bloodline special? How does MM get to be a goddess then? And this Peter Party stuff? If they were intent on stripping MM from the Christian record, what a bunch of incompetent chumps &#8211; &#8217;cause they did a lousy job. Moreover, they were kind of whacked &#8211; if they intentionally fabricated a story that was going to get them persecuted. If they really wanted &quot;power&quot; &#8211; they <em>should<\/em> have picked the MM story. Whatever!<\/p>\n<p>-You want fiction that deals with religious faith? You&#8217;re in luck, because some of the greatest literature ever produced revolves around that nexus. Toss Brown and pick up Graham Greene, O&#8217;Connor, Lewis, Percy, Spark&#8230;do it!<\/p>\n<p>-This canard that the Jesus of Christianity is an unapproachable distant figure, and a lie, in contrast to the wonderful gnostic Jesus. Really? Read those gnostic writings and then read the canonical Gospels. Then get back to me. Encounter the Jesus who says, &quot;Pick up your cross and follow me,&quot; &quot;Sell what you have and give the money to the poor,&quot; and &quot;Love your enemies&quot; and then do some soul searching. Why is it that I don&#8217;t want <em>this<\/em> to be the &quot;real Jesus?&quot; Why? What am I afraid of? <\/p>\n<p>Oh, and if you want to get depressed, read the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0382625\/\">International Movie Data Base message boards on DVC <\/a>&#8230;don&#8217;t say I didn&#8217;t warn you.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s actually the kind of gig I like &#8211; back and forth within 24 hours. Very nice talk at Alleghenny College last night &#8211; many thanks to Fr. Mark Hoffman, who invited and hosted me. 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