{"id":350,"date":"2007-12-20T08:31:49","date_gmt":"2007-12-20T08:31:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/viamedia\/2007\/12\/before-you-board-the.html"},"modified":"2007-12-20T08:31:49","modified_gmt":"2007-12-20T08:31:49","slug":"before-you-board-the","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/viamedia\/2007\/12\/before-you-board-the.html","title":{"rendered":"Before you board the.."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#8230;Bash Rowan Williams Train today (based on the headlines), <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/zadokromanus.blogspot.com\/2007\/12\/poor-rowan-williams.html\">do check out Zadok&#8217;s post, which includes a portion of the transcript about what Williams actually said about the Nativity narratives<\/a>. Short version: he <em>didn&#8217;t <\/em>say that the Magi were legend. He said that certain aspects of our imaging of them\u00a0are the results of centuries of story-telling and legend (that there were three, that one was black, that they were kings, etc.)<br \/>\n<u>Update: <\/u><br \/>\nDo check out what <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/catholidoxy.blogspot.com\/\">Irenaeus has to say about this at Catholidoxy. Or Retractiones<\/a>. Whatever he calls it, we&#8217;re glad he&#8217;s back!<br \/>\nAnd let&#8217;s make one thing clear: Most New Testament scholars, I&#8217;d guess, don&#8217;t believe the Infancy Narratives have an historical value <em>at all<\/em>. None. So despite his hedging and problems that Irenaeus points out, the fact that Williams cedes any historicity at all to the Infancy Narratives puts him, frankly, outside mainstream Biblical scholarship. 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