{"id":2890,"date":"2005-09-02T10:39:37","date_gmt":"2005-09-02T10:39:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/viamedia\/2005\/09\/word-from-rome-1.html"},"modified":"2005-09-02T10:39:37","modified_gmt":"2005-09-02T10:39:37","slug":"word-from-rome-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/viamedia\/2005\/09\/word-from-rome-1.html","title":{"rendered":"Word From Rome"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Much discussion on the B16-Fellay meeting, including an interview with SSPX #2 man Fr. Schmidberger, who laid out the problems:<\/p>\n

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Then, Schmidberger said, "We have to have serious conversations about the Second Vatican Council." <\/p>\n

"There are many points we simply do not agree with," he said. <\/p>\n

Schmidberger cited the council’s ecumenical teaching, which he characterized as, "The Holy Ghost has used other denominations as means of salvation." This, Schmidberger said, is unacceptable. <\/p>\n

He said the same point applies to the council’s teaching on other religions. <\/p>\n

Schmidberger also said the society "cannot accept" the council’s teaching on religious liberty. <\/p>\n

"This is not because it is our position, or because we want to puff ourselves up with glory, but because it is in contradiction with what other popes have said," Schmidberger said. "It is in contradiction, for example, with what Pius IX said in the encyclical Quanta Cura<\/em>. I really don’t see how these two things can be reconciled." <\/p>\n

Issued in 1864, Quanta Cura<\/em> was accompanied by Pius IX’s famous Syllabus of Errors, in which religious liberty was denounced as "liberty of perdition." <\/p>\n

Finally, Schmidberger pointed to the Vatican II document Gaudium et Spes<\/em>, which in paragraph 12 says that "all things on earth should be ordained to man as to their center and summit." <\/p>\n

"We do not agree," Schmidberger said. "The center and summit must be God." <\/p>\n

"These are very substantial points," he said. "It’s not just a matter of working out a few minor things." <\/p>\n

I asked Schmidberger if, in his view, these theological debates had to be resolved before the Lefebvrites could be reconciled with Rome. <\/p>\n

"No, but we have to be able to express our reservations about the council," he said. "We must have this liberty. We must be able to criticize the council. \u2026 It’s for the welfare of the church. There are profound wounds coming forth from this, and those wounds must be healed." <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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