{"id":1933,"date":"2005-09-26T23:04:27","date_gmt":"2005-09-26T23:04:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/viamedia\/2005\/09\/more-on-the-document-no-one-has-seen.html"},"modified":"2005-09-26T23:04:27","modified_gmt":"2005-09-26T23:04:27","slug":"more-on-the-document-no-one-has-seen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/viamedia\/2005\/09\/more-on-the-document-no-one-has-seen.html","title":{"rendered":"More on the document no one has seen"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I had a call earlier today about appearing on a show on Boston Public radio. From the person&#8217;s questions I could tell that she was under the impression that I would come on and argue against &quot;gays in the priesthood.&quot; I said, well, that&#8217;s not what my piece was about. She said, well, but you said&#8230;and she read me the paragraph about &quot;gay subculture,&quot; etc. So I tried to explain the distinctions, and she said, &quot;Well, I&#8217;m not Catholic so I really don&#8217;t understand.&quot; I explained it again and she said she would go to her production meeting with this new information. I said, fine..whatever you all want. Unenthusiastically. The main guests were to be someone from Weston and Fr. John Trigilio, I believe. So, I&#8217;m not going to be on, thank goodness.<\/p>\n<p>Which brings us to four recent blogposts about this issue. I still am thinking, in accord with <a href=\"http:\/\/donjim.blogspot.com\/2005_09_01_donjim_archive.html#112742386666434676\">Fr. Jim Tucker<\/a>, that a blanket &quot;ban&quot; is unlikely. But perhaps I&#8217;ll discover what crow tastes like. Who knows. <\/p>\n<p>I also want to draw your attention to another post from Fr. Jim, <a href=\"http:\/\/donjim.blogspot.com\/2005_09_01_donjim_archive.html#112774727046439305\">here, in which he takes care of the argument of who priests will be in close proximity to. Short answer: it&#8217;s not other men.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Then from another priest,who is also a frequent commenter here,&nbsp; <a href=\"http:\/\/frmartinfox.blogspot.com\/2005\/09\/mixed-message-to-gay-catholics.html\">Fr. Martin Fox, weighs in:<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Third, people seem not to give much credence to what the Church actually recommends as a necessary tool for homosexual persons to succeed in chastity: close, trusting, disinterested friendship. This is what the Catechism says, and what Courage, the completely orthodox, pro-chastity, Catholic apostolate for same-sex-attracted persons, says.<\/p>\n<p>And one of the great aspects of the seminary is the brotherhood men form in pursuit of the priesthood. You have every opportunity to form solid, trusting, life-giving friendships. And such friendships are key for all men, particularly in being morally accountable; who thinks they wouldn&#8217;t be a great boon to same-sex-attracted men who are serious about chastity? If ever there were a place where a homosexual man might find a heterosexual man with the maturity, moral depth, spirituality and Christian charity to be a real friend, this should be that place.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"http:\/\/davidmorrison.typepad.com\/sed_contra\/2005\/09\/should_the_lemo.html\">A bit more from David Morrison<\/a> and then <a href=\"http:\/\/eve-tushnet.blogspot.com\/2005_09_01_eve-tushnet_archive.html#112770424564051116\">Eve Tushnet weighs in.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I had a call earlier today about appearing on a show on Boston Public radio. 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