{"id":681,"date":"2009-06-18T10:08:44","date_gmt":"2009-06-18T10:08:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/treeleafzen\/2009\/06\/unturning-japanese.html"},"modified":"2009-06-18T10:08:44","modified_gmt":"2009-06-18T10:08:44","slug":"unturning-japanese","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/treeleafzen\/2009\/06\/unturning-japanese.html","title":{"rendered":"(Un)Turning Japanese"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>  .<\/p>\n<p>Someone wrote our <a href=\"http:\/\/www.treeleaf.org\/forum\/\">Treeleaf Forum<\/a> to comment<i> &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><\/i><\/p>\n<div align=\"right\"><i>I personally feel that there&#8217;s a wall between me and organized zenbecause organized zen is either Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, orChinese, and I am none of those. I&#8217;m just a guy in L.A. who presentlyfeels that all the cultural ornaments hanging from the zen tree arekeeping me from seeing the tree, or else enticing me away from the treeso that all I see are the ornaments &#8230;<\/i><\/p>\n<p><\/div>\n<div align=\"left\">So, must we bow, ring bells, chant (in <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Japanese<\/span>, no less), wear traditional robes, have Buddha Statues, burn incense? &#8230; All that stuff besides <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Zazen<\/span>. Are they <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">necessary<\/span> to our Practice?<\/div>\n<div align=\"right\">\n<div align=\"center\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">No, not at all!<\/span><\/p>\n<div align=\"right\">Wedon&#8217;t need anything other than Zazen, any of those trappings. In fact,they are no big deal, of no importance, when we drop all viewpoints insitting Zazen. Pursue your own Practice. Ultimately in Zazen, we sit with ourself andourself alone (literally, with our &#8220;self&#8221;), and wrappings, bells andwhistles are a sideshow. Ultimately, it is a matter of you exploringand sitting with your own &#8220;me myself and I&#8221; This practice is notlimited to any place or time &#8230; we drop all thought of place and time.It certainly is not Indian, Chinese, Japanese, French, Namibian or American<\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">On the other hand,<\/span>we have to do something, to greet each other somehow, read some words,dress some way. Why not do such things? As I often say, for example, wehave to do something with our hands when practicing &#8216;walking Zazen&#8217; (<i>Kinhin)<\/i> &#8230;why not hold them in the traditional manner of <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Shashu<\/span> (I mean, better than sticking &#8217;em in your pockets)? <\/p>\n<p>As well, there are parts of our practice which we do <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">BECAUSE we resist <\/span>(forexample, when visiting a temple for Retreat, I usually put my heartfully into ceremonies and arcane rituals BECAUSE I resist and thinksome of it silly or old fashioned). Ask yourself where that kind ofresistance is to be found (here&#8217;s a clue, and it is <i>right behind yourown eyes<\/i>). <\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">What is more,<\/span>there is method to the madness, and many (not all) customs havecenturies of time tested benefits &#8230; embody subtle perspectives &#8230;that support and nurture Zazen Practice at the core. Many parts of ourPractice, though &#8220;exotic&#8221;, are worth keeping, even if they strikesomeone as strange at first. Bowing, statues, rigid decorum in the ZenHall and, yes, weird talks about Koans all fit in that category. Theymay seem like unnecessary &#8220;Japanese&#8221; or &#8220;Esoteric&#8221; elements at first,until you understand the role they serve. I have given talks on allthese things recently, for example &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Bowing &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/treeleafzen\/2%20...%20eat-3.html\">http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/treeleafzen\/2 &#8230; eat-3.html<\/a><!-- m --><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">On the other hand again,<\/span>it is okay to abandon or reject many practices. However, KNOW very wellwhat you are rejecting before you reject it.&nbsp; Absorbwhat is useful and discard the rest. For example, I think Oryoki[formal meal ritual] is another example of a great practice, and worth keeping..<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"uncited\">\n<div>Some things I keep<span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"> out of respect for TRADITION<\/span>[the robes, the ways of doing some ceremonies]. It is important to keepties to where we come from and to respect our &#8216;roots&#8217;. Some things also have a special <b>symbolicmeaning<\/b> if you look into them, so worth keeping [for example, a <i>Rakusu<\/i>]<\/p>\n<p><b>Butother stuff, no need to keep<\/b>: For example, I usually avoid to chant inJapanese or Chinese [except once in awhile, out of respect fortradition]. Tatami mats and Paper screens have nothing to do with Zenpractice particularly [but I happen to live in an old Japanesebuilding, so &#8230; well, tatami and paper screens!} <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.treeleaf.org\/forum\/images\/smilies\/icon_biggrin.gif\" alt=\":D\" title=\"Very Happy\" \/>Some things I think are just dumb (except symbolically), like theKyosaku stick. Incense is great, until it was recently shown to causecancer. Many beliefs of Buddhism are rather superstitious things thatwere picked up here and there. I abandon many of those.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Theouter wrap of Zen Buddhism is changing greatly as it moves West. Thegreater emphasis on lay practice over monastics, the greater democracyin what was a feudal institution (arising in societies where theteacher&#8217;s word was law &#8230; oh, those were the days! <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.treeleaf.org\/forum\/images\/smilies\/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\":wink:\" title=\"Wink\" \/> ), giving the boot to a lot of <b><span style=\"font-style: italic;\">magico-supersticio hocus-pocus bunkum<\/span><\/b>,the equal place of women &#8230; heck, the use of the internet to bringteachings that were once the preserve of an elite few into everyone&#8217;sliving room.Those are good and great changes to the outer wrapping (youcan read about them in books like this one (author interview here:<!-- m --> <a class=\"postlink\" href=\"http:\/\/atheism.about.com\/library\/books\/chats\/bl_ColemanChat.htm\">http:\/\/atheism.about.com\/library\/books\/ &#8230; anChat.htm<\/a><!-- m --> ). The coreless core, however, remains unchanged.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Do not throw out the baby with the bath water<\/span>. Many completely &#8220;Japanese&#8221; or other exotic practices which seem silly at first are worth keeping. &#8230; <\/p>\n<p>&#8230; other things, like some of the arcane incense, bell &amp; drum filled rituals, <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">take them or leave them<\/span>. <\/p>\n<p>Gassho (an Asian custom of &#8220;Pressed Palms&#8221;),  Jundo (a Dharma name)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div align=\"left\">\n<div align=\"center\">\n<div style=\"border-style: none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color windowtext; border-width: medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0pt 0pt 1pt;\">\n<p class=\"Default\" style=\"border: medium none ; padding: 0pt;\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><i><\/i><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><object width=\"480\" height=\"385\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/uyfrUJwycfY&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x006699&amp;color2=0x54abd6\" \/><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\" \/><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/uyfrUJwycfY&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x006699&amp;color2=0x54abd6\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" width=\"480\" height=\"385\"><\/object><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><u>(remember: recording ends soon after the beginning bells;<\/u><\/div>\n<div align=\"center\"><u>a sitting time of 20 to 35 minutes is recommended)<\/u><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"left\"><\/p>\n<div align=\"left\"><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"left\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.feedburner.com\/fb\/a\/emailverifySubmit?feedId=2769166\">To subscribe to &#8220;Treeleaf Zen&#8221; click here.<\/a><o:p><\/o:p> <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><o:p>&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>. 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