{"id":658,"date":"2009-05-18T11:30:57","date_gmt":"2009-05-18T11:30:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/treeleafzen\/2009\/05\/putting-down-our-toys-learning.html"},"modified":"2009-05-18T11:30:57","modified_gmt":"2009-05-18T11:30:57","slug":"putting-down-our-toys-learning","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/treeleafzen\/2009\/05\/putting-down-our-toys-learning.html","title":{"rendered":"Putting Down Our Toys, Learning to Play  (REDUX)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div align=\"center\">&nbsp;   <u><b><\/b><b>I AM PRESENTING THIS TALK A SECOND TIME, <\/b><\/u><br \/><u><b>AS WE HAD A FEW RECORDING ISSUES A FEW DAYS AGO &#8230;<\/b><\/u><\/div>\n<p><u><br \/><\/u><b><font style=\"font-size: 1.25em;\">(BENDOWA XXIX)<\/font><\/b><\/p>\n<p>Uchiyama Roshi comments on this section:<br \/><i><br \/><\/i><\/p>\n<div align=\"right\"><i><span dir=\"ltr\">The meaning of the third question is: Okay. Zazen is good. I understand that it cannot be reached by ordinary thoughts. But it might be possible to become<\/span> enlightened through various practices, such as reciting sutras and chanting nembutsu. I feel unsatisfied <span dir=\"ltr\">with only sitting silently. In other words, this questioner thinks that to do something is better than to do nothing.<\/span><\/i><br \/><i><span dir=\"ltr\"><\/span><\/i><\/div>\n<p><i><span dir=\"ltr\"><br \/><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<div align=\"right\"><i><span dir=\"ltr\">First of all, <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\">people in this world like to play with toys. Theyalways feel something lacking if they have no toys at hand. &#8230; Pianos, <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\"> cameras, golf, and automobiles are all objects of pleasure for such people&#8230;. [even] working hard, <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\">involvement in social climbing, even studying or research activities can be nothing more than playing with toys.Among all the human <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\">activities in the world, there is nothing in which we can live out our own life without amusing ourselves with toys. This is the point where Zazen is wondrous. &#8230; To practice true Zazen <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\"> is to live being awakened to the reality of the life of the self in its true sense, without playing with toys, without comparison to others, without self-deception <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\">or self-amusement.<\/span> Dogen Zenji&#8217;s zazen <\/i><span dir=\"ltr\"><i>is the only way to straightforwardly live out the reality of the life of the self that is beyond relation to others. We must understand this thoroughly. 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To ordinary people,reading the sutras and [chanting] the Nembutsu are the natural means to enlightenment.You just sit cross-legged and do nothing. How is this a means to enlightenment?<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><o:p>&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">A: You look on the meditationof the Buddhas and the supreme law as just sitting and doing nothing. Youdisparage Mahayana Buddhism. Your delusion is deep; you are like someone in themiddle of the ocean crying out for water. Fortunately we are already sitting atease in the self-joyous meditation of the Buddhas. Isn&#8217;t this a great boon?What a pity that your true-eye remains shut-that your mind remains drunk. Theworld of the Buddhas eludes ordinary thinking and consciousness. It cannot beknown by disbelief and inferior knowledge. To enter one must have right belief.The disbeliever, even if taught, has trouble grasping it. For example, when theBuddha was preaching at Grdhrakuta, the disbelievers were allowed to go away. Tobring out the right belief in your mind you must train and study. If you cannotdo this, you should quit for awhile, regretting that you lack the influence ofthe law from a former beneficial relation. What good are such actions asreading the sutras and saying the Nembutsu. How futile to think that Buddhistmerits accrue from merely moving the tongue and raising the voice. If you thinkthis covers Buddhism, you are far from the truth. Your only purpose in readingthe sutras should be to learn thoroughly that the Buddha taught the rules ofgradual and sudden training and that by practicing his teachings you can obtainenlightenment. You should not read the sutras merely to pretend to wisdomthrough vain intellections. To strive for the goal of Buddhism by reading manysutras is like pointing the hill to the north and heading south. It is likeputting a square peg in a round hole. While you look at words and phrases, thepath of your training remains dark. This is as worthless as a doctor whoforgets his prescription. Constant repetition of the Nembutsu is alsoworthless-like a frog in a spring field croaking night and day. <b>Those deludedby fame and fortune, find it especially difficult to abandon the nembutsu.Bound by deep roots to a profit-seeking mind, they existed in ages past, andthey exist today. They are to be pitied. Understand only this: if enlightenedZen masters and their earnest disciples correctly transmit the supreme law ofthe seven Buddhas, its essence emerges, and it can be experienced. Those whomerely study the letters of the sutras cannot know this. So put a stop to thisdoubt and delusion. 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