{"id":60,"date":"2008-11-08T02:10:00","date_gmt":"2008-11-08T02:10:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/treeleafzen\/2008\/11\/sit-a-long-with-jundo-no-self.html"},"modified":"2008-11-08T02:10:00","modified_gmt":"2008-11-08T02:10:00","slug":"sit-a-long-with-jundo-no-self","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/treeleafzen\/2008\/11\/sit-a-long-with-jundo-no-self.html","title":{"rendered":"SIT-A-LONG with JUNDO: No-Self Esteem (1of2)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><a  href=\"https:\/\/www.satsangnathan.com\/images\/no-self.gif\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 333px; height: 335px;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.satsangnathan.com\/images\/no-self.gif\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><span style=\"color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;\">NOTE: OUR WEEKLY &#8216;LIVE&#8217; ZAZENKAI WILL BE TOMORROW (SUNDAY) THIS WEEK <\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"content\">\n<blockquote>\n<div><cite><\/cite><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Someone wrote to ask about &#8220;low self-esteem&#8221;.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:85%;\"><span style=\"font-style: italic;\">I&#8217;m curious about people&#8217;s views on self-esteem. On one hand, having good self-esteem leads to a positive and happy life. People with high self-esteem are confident, friendly, out-going and not afraid of taking risks. On the other end of the scale you have people with very low self-esteem and I think this is a key issue for many people with a history of depression &#8230;How do you go about increasing your self esteem? Are there are specific [Buddhist] practices\/exercises &#8230;  which could help?<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div style=\"text-align: right;\">My teacher, Nishijima Roshi, describes Buddhism as a philosophy of &#8220;<span style=\"font-style: italic;\">optimism<\/span>&#8220;. When I first heard that, it struck me as strange, because I had thought our way was to drop all &#8220;likes&#8221; and &#8220;dislikes&#8221; about life, which I thought meant that we must be &#8220;neutral&#8221; and rather ambivalent to everything.<\/div>\n<p>But now I see Nishijima Roshi&#8217;s point, and it applies to the question of &#8216;self-esteem&#8217; too.<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: right;\">You see, in our Zen Practice we are often doing several seemingly contradictory things all at once, hand-in-hand, without the least conflict or contradiction.<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: right;\">So, on the one hand, it is vital that we learn to fully and completely drop the &#8220;self&#8221;, drop the ego and all our &#8216;self-centered&#8217; thoughts and ideas. We fully and completely drop all &#8220;likes&#8221; and &#8220;dislikes&#8221;, and all other judgments. We accept life &#8220;at it is&#8221;. This is <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Shikantaza<\/span>.<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: right;\">But the funny thing that happens when you accept the world as &#8220;just what it is&#8221;, is not numbness or neutrality or cold &#8220;<span style=\"font-style: italic;\">whatever<\/span>&#8221; ambivalence &#8230; Instead, it can be more an experience of &#8220;going with the flow&#8221;, harmony with &#8220;what is&#8221;, oneness, allowing and embracing. Life is &#8220;just what it is&#8221;, and that&#8217;s just fine! YIPPEE!<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><span style=\"font-style: italic;\">We even then (and this sounds strange) accept the &#8220;self&#8221; as &#8220;just what it is&#8221; too. So, strange as it sounds, by dropping our sense of &#8220;self&#8221; and &#8220;self-centered ideas&#8221; and judgments of things, we even drop our self-centered ideas on what is &#8220;wrong&#8221; with our self &#8230; and we accept our &#8220;self&#8221; as just what it is too!<\/span> <\/span><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"font-weight: bold;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.treeleaf.org\/forum\/images\/smilies\/icon_eek.gif\" alt=\":shock:\" title=\"Shocked\" \/><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><br \/><span style=\"font-size:78%;\">[PLEASE READ THE FOREGOING SENTENCE AT LEAST TWICE!] <\/span><\/span><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.treeleaf.org\/forum\/images\/smilies\/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\":wink:\" title=\"Wink\" \/>  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.treeleaf.org\/forum\/images\/smilies\/icon_wink.gif\" alt=\":wink:\" title=\"Wink\" \/><\/div>\n<p>We realize that our thoughts are, to one degree or another, a fictional story we write for ourselves &#8230; and it is up to us how we write the story. So, if you want to judge negative, neutral or positive &#8230; the universe will let you do that. Up to you.<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: right;\">Thus, one might say that our ENTIRE Zen Buddhist Practice, all of it, is about dealing with the issue of &#8220;self-esteem&#8221;. The most important goalless goal you must attaininglessly attain is to see right through that fictional &#8220;boogeyman under the bed&#8221; that is your &#8220;self&#8221; and &#8220;self-centered&#8221; judgements &#8230;<\/div>\n<p>&#8230; about everything, including your self!!  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.treeleaf.org\/forum\/images\/smilies\/icon_eek.gif\" alt=\":shock:\" title=\"Shocked\" \/>  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.treeleaf.org\/forum\/images\/smilies\/icon_eek.gif\" alt=\":shock:\" title=\"Shocked\" \/>  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.treeleaf.org\/forum\/images\/smilies\/icon_eek.gif\" alt=\":shock:\" title=\"Shocked\" \/><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: right;\">So, drop all thought and judgments in <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Shikantaza<\/span>, drop all judgments about everything &#8230; including about what a loser you think you are!  <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.treeleaf.org\/forum\/images\/smilies\/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" \/><\/div>\n<p>Gassho,  Jundo<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: right;\">PS- Another thing about &#8220;self-esteem&#8221; is, once you have it, you must not become its prisoner, allow it to run to excess. Everything in balance, everything in moderation. But that is only an issue once you get the self-esteem! <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.treeleaf.org\/forum\/images\/smilies\/icon_smile.gif\" alt=\":)\" title=\"Smile\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: rgb(255, 0, 0);\"><br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">\n<div style=\"text-align: left;\"><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: right;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><embed flashvars=\"autoplay=false\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ustream.tv\/flash\/video\/848671\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" width=\"380\" height=\"300\"><\/embed><br \/><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><span style=\"font-size:85%;\"><span style=\"font-size:85%;\">Press on arrow for &#8216;play&#8217;<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><br \/><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><span style=\"font-size:85%;\"><span style=\"color: rgb(255, 0, 0);\">NOTE: IF YOU ARE HAVING TROUBLE TO SEE THE SCREEN OR START BUTTON,<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><br \/><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><span style=\"font-size:85%;\"><span style=\"color: rgb(255, 0, 0);\">PLEASE UPDATE FLASH.<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.treeleaf.org\/forum\/viewtopic.php?t=294\"><span style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 153);\">SEE HERE<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:85%;\"><span style=\"font-size:85%;\"><span style=\"font-size:85%;\"><br \/><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>NOTE: OUR WEEKLY &#8216;LIVE&#8217; ZAZENKAI WILL BE TOMORROW (SUNDAY) THIS WEEK Someone wrote to ask about &#8220;low self-esteem&#8221;. I&#8217;m curious about people&#8217;s views on self-esteem. On one hand, having good self-esteem leads to a positive and happy life. People with high self-esteem are confident, friendly, out-going and not afraid of taking risks. 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