{"id":374,"date":"2007-10-24T18:15:00","date_gmt":"2007-10-24T18:15:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/treeleafzen\/2007\/10\/sit-a-long-with-jundo-four-nob-4.html"},"modified":"2007-10-24T18:15:00","modified_gmt":"2007-10-24T18:15:00","slug":"sit-a-long-with-jundo-four-nob-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/treeleafzen\/2007\/10\/sit-a-long-with-jundo-four-nob-4.html","title":{"rendered":"SIT-A-LONG with JUNDO: Four Noble Truths &#8211; III"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>.<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: right;\">\n<div style=\"text-align: left;\">An alternative wording of the Four Noble Truths is [<span style=\"font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;\">emphasis added<\/span>] &#8230;<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size:85%;\">1. Suffering exists<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size:85%;\">   2. Suffering arises from   <span style=\"font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;\">attachment to desires<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size:85%;\">   3. Suffering ceases when <span style=\"font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;\">attachment to desires<\/span>   ceases<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size:85%;\">   4. Freedom from suffering is possible by practicing the   Eightfold Path <\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Quiz: <\/span><span style=\"font-size:85%;\">The &#8216;self&#8217; strongly desires <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic;font-size:85%;\" >X, <\/span><span style=\"font-size:85%;\">but the world gives <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic;font-size:85%;\" >Y<\/span><span style=\"font-size:85%;\"> instead (<\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic;font-size:85%;\" >e.g., a &#8216;failure&#8217; when &#8216;success&#8217; was desired<\/span><span style=\"font-size:85%;\">).<\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic;font-size:85%;\" >  <\/span><span style=\"font-size:85%;\">Great dissatisfaction, disappointment, fear, grief and\/or frustration are the result. In such cases, which of the following are an effective &#8216;medicine&#8217; to desire and suffering, and a fruit of our &#8216;<span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Just Sitting<\/span>&#8216; <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic;font-size:85%;\" >Zazen<\/span><span style=\"font-size:85%;\"> Practice?<\/span> <span style=\"font-size:85%;\">(<span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Note: several answers will overlap<\/span>)<\/span>:<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size:85%;\">A. For the &#8216;self&#8217; to learn to redirect its desire from <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">X<\/span> toward <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Y or Q (a third, available object)<\/span>.<br \/>B. For the &#8216;self&#8217; to soften or drop its attachment toward <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">X.<\/span> <\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size:85%;\">C. For the &#8216;self&#8217; to develop equanimity and acceptance toward any and all outcomes.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size:85%;\">D. For the inner desires, drives and cravings to be calmed and, thus, to lose their force.<br \/>E. For the <\/span><span style=\"font-size:85%;\">inner desires, drives and cravings to be, when needed, forcibly restrained by willpower.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size:85%;\">F. For the &#8216;self&#8217; to drop all thought of both &#8216;<span style=\"font-style: italic;\">X&#8217; <\/span>and <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">&#8216;Y&#8217; <\/span>from mind.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size:85%;\">G. For the sense of &#8216;self&#8217; to soften, or fully drop away.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-size:85%;\">H. All of the above &#8212; simultaneously or in various combinations at different times.<\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic;\"><br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: right;\"><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">ANSWER: H<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: left;\">My point: Practice provides a whole bag of available tricks. <\/div>\n<p><span><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><embed flashvars=\"shw_id=253&amp;epi_id=27353\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" base=\"http:\/\/operator11.com\/swf\/\" quality=\"high\" bgcolor=\"#fff\" src=\"http:\/\/operator11.com\/swf\/o11player.swf\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" height=\"362\" width=\"432\"><\/embed><span style=\"font-size:85%;\"><br \/><\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">Press on arrow for &#8216;play&#8217;<\/div>\n<p>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>. 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