{"id":93,"date":"2008-12-19T17:38:51","date_gmt":"2008-12-19T17:38:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/tonyjones\/2008\/12\/rick-warrens-long-cycle.html"},"modified":"2008-12-19T17:38:51","modified_gmt":"2008-12-19T17:38:51","slug":"rick-warrens-long-cycle","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/tonyjones\/2008\/12\/rick-warrens-long-cycle.html","title":{"rendered":"Rick Warren&#8217;s Long Cycle"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"saddlebackchurch6.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/198\/import\/saddlebackchurch6.jpg\" class=\"mt-image-center\" style=\"margin: 0pt auto 20px;text-align: center\" height=\"151\" width=\"489\" \/><\/span>Methinks the biggest story this week is not BO&#8217;s choice of Papa Rick to give the inaugural invocation.&nbsp; The biggest story this week is how big this story is.&nbsp; It won&#8217;t go away.&nbsp; I&#8217;m sure BO&#8217;s people thought it might last <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/News_cycle\">one news cycle<\/a>, but we&#8217;re now on day four of this.&nbsp; And it&#8217;s showing no signs of going away.&nbsp; <a href=\"http:\/\/news.google.com\/news?hl=en&amp;ned=us&amp;q=%22rick+warren%22+inauguration&amp;btnG=Search+News\">Google News shows 1900 stories<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/blogsearch.google.com\/blogsearch?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=%22rick+warren%22+inauguration&amp;btnG=Search+Blogs\">Google Blog Search shows 35,000 blog posts on the topic<\/a>.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>What is it with the staying power of this story?&nbsp; I&#8217;ve got a few theories, but I don&#8217;t if one of them &#8212; or any of them &#8212; is on the money.&nbsp; Let me know what you think.<\/p>\n<p><b>A) After the last two years, we are political news junkies<\/b>.&nbsp; We&#8217;d never heard of Joe Scarborough or Rachel Maddow a few months ago, and now we watch them every day.&nbsp; We still check Politico, Huffington, and Andrew every day.&nbsp; But since the most dramatic primary and general election season maybe ever, the last six weeks has been boring as hell.&nbsp; Cabinet appointments? Caroline Kennedy?&nbsp; Rahm Emmanuel&#8217;s potty mouth?&nbsp; Yawn.&nbsp; <i>What this story has is enough political and celebrity intrigue to get people to turn on Larry King.<br \/><\/i><\/p>\n<div><b>B) The pro-gay marriage movement is bigger than we thought<\/b>.&nbsp; A big part of the flap is that Papa Rick vocally and financially supported Prop 8, and that he has even since compared gay partnerships to brother-sister incest, etc.&nbsp; Rick clearly believes that gayness is an ailment than <a href=\"http:\/\/andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com\/the_daily_dish\/2008\/12\/rick-warren-and.html\">can (and should) be cured<\/a>.&nbsp; Fine.&nbsp; He has every right to that opinion, and to promote that opinion.&nbsp; But the dust-up over his selection by BO was clearly underestimated by BO&#8217;s people (or they would have done more pre- and immediate damage control).&nbsp; Indeed, most of us would not have guessed that there&#8217;d be this much uproar&#8230;because most of us believe the commonly cited statistic that 68% of Americans are steadfastly against gay rights.&nbsp; In fact, Americans are shifting their views in favor of same sex marriage at <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/tonyjones\/2008\/11\/same-sex-marriage-blogalogue-p-2.html#more\">one percent per year<\/a>.&nbsp; Maybe the staying power of this story shows it&#8217;s shifting even faster, and that the passage of Prop 8 has hastened that.<br \/><b><br \/>C) <\/b><b>Conservatives are recoiling at Papa Rick as the successor to Billy Graham as &#8220;America&#8217;s Pastor.&#8221;<\/b>&nbsp; In fact, I think that journalists might be recoiling, too (liberals, of course, get no vote on &#8220;America&#8217;s Pastor.&#8221;)&nbsp; Throughout <a href=\"http:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/News\/2008\/12\/Rick-Warren-Transcript.aspx\">Papa Rick&#8217;s extended interview with Steve Waldman<\/a>, he shows a sorry lack of theological sophistication, not to mention gramatical sophistication.&nbsp; I mean, can anyone imagine Billy Graham making so many unmeasured &#8212; even unbiblical &#8212; statements?&nbsp; Let&#8217;s take just one example:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><b>Rick says:<\/b> The fundamental<br \/>\nissue is, people often ask me, &#8220;What&#8217;s the worst sin?&#8221; They<br \/>\nexpect me to say adultery, or taking drugs or something.&nbsp; The Bible clearly<br \/>\nstates, in the book of Isaiah, it&#8217;s pride.&nbsp; It&#8217;s pride.&nbsp; It was<br \/>\npride as Isaiah talks about Satan to get kicked out of heaven.&nbsp; And the middle<br \/>\nletter of sin is &#8220;I&#8221; and the middle letter of pride is<br \/>\n&#8220;I.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>The Bible (Jesus!) says:<\/b> Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven these men (the Pharisees), but<br \/>\nthe blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever says<br \/>\na word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks<br \/>\nagainst the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in<br \/>\nthe age to come.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Or can you imagine Billy Graham asserting that <a href=\"http:\/\/andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com\/the_daily_dish\/2008\/12\/warren-on-propo.html\">marriage has been practiced the same way in every human society for 5,000 years<\/a>?&nbsp; I can&#8217;t.&nbsp; The evangelical intelligencia liked (not loved) Billy Graham because, though he wasn&#8217;t a theologian, he usually spoke carefully (anti-semitic comments in Nixon&#8217;s office being the exception that proves the rule.&nbsp; Papa Rick is not nearly as circumspect.&nbsp; He and Billy are probably 98% sympatico, but Rick&#8217;s a SoCal dude, and Billy&#8217;s a southern gentleman.<\/p>\n<p>Well, it&#8217;ll be interesting to see if this story fades over the weekend or if calls for Papa Rick to be removed from the <strike>dias<\/strike> daisintensify.&nbsp; In either case, both BO and Papa Rick have to be happy that the holidays are upon us, and new tends to die over the holidays.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Methinks the biggest story this week is not BO&#8217;s choice of Papa Rick to give the inaugural invocation.&nbsp; The biggest story this week is how big this story is.&nbsp; It won&#8217;t go away.&nbsp; I&#8217;m sure BO&#8217;s people thought it might last one news cycle, but we&#8217;re now on day four of this.&nbsp; And it&#8217;s showing&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":134,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,15,7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-93","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics","category-same-sex-marriage","category-theology"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - 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