{"id":48,"date":"2008-12-02T06:01:16","date_gmt":"2008-12-02T06:01:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/tonyjones\/2008\/12\/are-you-an-mie-multiissue-evan.html"},"modified":"2008-12-02T06:01:16","modified_gmt":"2008-12-02T06:01:16","slug":"are-you-an-mie-multiissue-evan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/tonyjones\/2008\/12\/are-you-an-mie-multiissue-evan.html","title":{"rendered":"Are You an MIE (Multi-Issue Evangelical)?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve never claimed to be an evangelical, which will make many evangelicals happy.&nbsp; However,&nbsp; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.therevealer.org\/archives\/today_003137.php\">others<\/a> do pin that term on me, including my friend, <a href=\"http:\/\/pantheon.yale.edu\/%7Ekd47\/\">Keith DeRose<\/a>.&nbsp; Keith is a philosopher at Yale and a Class-A blog lurker and commenter (he will also guest blog for me here on occasion).<\/p>\n<p>Keith recently left a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.netbloghost.com\/mouw\/?p=97#comment-195339\">comment<\/a> on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.netbloghost.com\/mouw\/?p=97\">Rich Mouw&#8217;s<\/a> blog which he pointed me to in the wake of my <a href=\"http:\/\/tonyj.net\/?s=obama+abortion\">pre-election posts on Obama and abortion<\/a>.&nbsp; As usual, Keith brings up a great argument, and one that many of us (evangelical or not) should consider.&nbsp; Because, if we cannot answer this question, we&#8217;re just not being honest:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Of course one can be &#8220;concerned about abortion-on-demand,&#8221; while seeing<br \/>\nthat as just one issue among many. But I think the most important thing<br \/>\nfor &#8220;multi-issue evangelicals&#8221; (MIEs) to explain in order to make their<br \/>\nposition intelligible is the exact nature of such concern. For here&#8217;s<br \/>\nthe problem. Many evangelicals for whom abortion is &#8212; or at least<br \/>\napproaches being &#8212; *the* all-important moral\/political issue of our day<br \/>\nthink that way because they think that abortion, from the moment of<br \/>\nconception on, is murder &#8211; the moral equivalent of killing an<br \/>\neight-year-old child, for instance. Thus, abortion in our nation (and<br \/>\nin many others) is mass murder on a huge scale. So OF COURSE this will<br \/>\nbe a dominant issue for them. <\/p>\n<p>They &#8212; and I, too, looking at it from the<br \/>\nother direction &#8212; then have a hard time understanding MIEs who (to give<br \/>\na caricature of the reasoning, but one designed to highlight the<br \/>\nserious problem) will tell them, say, before voting, &#8220;Yes, I&#8217;m with you<br \/>\non abortion. But that widespread mass baby murder that happens<br \/>\nthroughout our land every day is just one issue for me. I also want<br \/>\nsome nice recycling programs.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>Well, one way that that&#8217;s a gross<br \/>\ncaricature is that, in giving such a speech, an MIE won&#8217;t explicitly<br \/>\nsay that they agree that abortion is mass murder on a huge scale. But<br \/>\nthey also won&#8217;t (at least typically) explicitly deny it. As is common<br \/>\nfor those trying to maintain a &#8220;big tent,&#8221; that&#8217;s left vague &amp;<br \/>\nquite open. <\/p>\n<p>But there does usually seem (in, for instance, the recent<br \/>\n&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.anevangelicalmanifesto.com\/\">Evangelical Manifesto<\/a>&#8220;) a suggestion that you mean to be standing with<br \/>\nthe strong pro-lifers on the issue of abortion, but only demur when it<br \/>\ncomes to make that a dominant concern, to the point that it crowds out<br \/>\nother issues. But *shouldn&#8217;t* it crowd out issues, if the problem<br \/>\nreally is one of mass murder on an enormous scale? At least, some<br \/>\nexplaining seems called for. <\/p>\n<p>Perhaps some MIEs think abortion is a very<br \/>\nbad problem, but it&#8217;s somehow not mass murder on an enormous scale, and<br \/>\nso there&#8217;s room to negotiate between that and other important concerns.<br \/>\nOr maybe there&#8217;s some epistemic component to the position: Some MIEs<br \/>\nmay think that abortion *might* be mass-baby-murder, but aren&#8217;t really<br \/>\nsure about that, and so there&#8217;s room to be swayed by other concerns. Or<br \/>\nmaybe there are some MIEs who do think, quite confidently, that<br \/>\nabortion in our land is mass-baby-murder, but think nonetheless that<br \/>\nthese other issues are so important as to compete with that problem.<br \/>\nAnd of course, different MIEs may fall into different of these<br \/>\ncategories. In that case, nobody can speak for all MIEs on this issue,<br \/>\nbut these possibilities should be explained: &#8220;Some of us think this<br \/>\nway, some that, and some this other&#8230;&#8221; But that&#8217;s what needs explaining,<br \/>\nit seems to me.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve never claimed to be an evangelical, which will make many evangelicals happy.&nbsp; However,&nbsp; others do pin that term on me, including my friend, Keith DeRose.&nbsp; Keith is a philosopher at Yale and a Class-A blog lurker and commenter (he will also guest blog for me here on occasion). 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