{"id":392,"date":"2009-07-16T19:39:50","date_gmt":"2009-07-16T19:39:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/tonyjones\/2009\/07\/me-on-patheos-on-gays.html"},"modified":"2009-07-16T19:39:50","modified_gmt":"2009-07-16T19:39:50","slug":"me-on-patheos-on-gays","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/tonyjones\/2009\/07\/me-on-patheos-on-gays.html","title":{"rendered":"Me on Patheos on Gays"},"content":{"rendered":"

An interview with me on the issue of gays and the church just went live on the new interfaith website, Patheos<\/a>.<\/p>\n

\n

Q: In a now famous post, you came to the conclusion that
\nGLBTQ folks can “live lives in accord with biblical Christianity” and
\nthat their monogamy can and should be sanctioned by church and state.
\nDo you think this has given critics of the emerging church movement
\nanother arrow in their sling?<\/strong><\/p>\n

A: Ha! “Famous” may be overstating it! Yes, surely this has caused
\nsome conservative commentators to say, “See, I told you that the
\nemergent movement was just the newest form of liberalism.” But they
\nwere going to say that anyway, no matter what we say. And it’s also no
\nsurprise that they completely ignore it when I write something that
\naligns with their own stances, like my recent affirmation of the
\nphysical resurrection of Jesus. They go looking for what they want to
\nfind, and, whaddya know, they find it!<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

They’ve also posted an essay<\/a> I wrote for them on the same issue:<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\n

In English, a “shibboleth” has, since the 17th<\/sup> century,
\nmeant a particularly meaningless differentiator of persons. It seems to
\nme that Evangelicals are particularly fond of shibboleths. (And, let me
\nsay, when I capitalize “Evangelical,” I mean to imply cultural
\nEvangelicals – those who affiliate with the politics, music, media, and
\nchurches of American Evangelicalism – as opposed to the many Catholics,
\nmainline Protestants, Orthodox, and Anabaptists who desire to spread
\nthe gospel and thus consider themselves “evangelical.”)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

There is also an editorial<\/a> by Tim Dalrymple<\/a> rebutting me:<\/p>\n

\n

It is the use of particular differentiators in particular contexts
\n(such as skin color in hiring or club membership) that we find
\nobjectionable. Jones rightly objects to occasions when “particularly
\nmeaningless” differentiators are employed to determine who is and who
\nis not truly Evangelical. The question is whether Jones is correct that
\nsame-sex marriage qualifies as a “particularly meaningless”
\ndifferentiator.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Your thoughts?<\/p>\n

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