{"id":27,"date":"2008-11-22T09:19:37","date_gmt":"2008-11-22T09:19:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/tonyjones\/2008\/11\/same-sex-marriage-blogalogue-t-1.html"},"modified":"2008-11-22T09:19:37","modified_gmt":"2008-11-22T09:19:37","slug":"same-sex-marriage-blogalogue-t-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/tonyjones\/2008\/11\/same-sex-marriage-blogalogue-t-1.html","title":{"rendered":"The Government&#8217;s Business: Same Sex Marriage Blogalogue"},"content":{"rendered":"<div align=\"center\"><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"blogalogue_bar.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/198\/import\/blogalogue_bar.jpg\" class=\"mt-image-center\" style=\"margin: 0pt auto 20px;text-align: center\" width=\"422\" height=\"30\" \/><\/span><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/crunchycon\">Rod<\/a>, it was great to meet you and sit on your front porch drinking<br \/>\ncoffee.&nbsp; Actually, it was even more wonderful to meet Julie and the<br \/>\nkids, your chickens, and your incapacitated dog.&nbsp; I appreciated reading <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/crunchycon\/2008\/11\/tony-jones-and-rod-dreher-disc.html#more\">your story<\/a>, and I&#8217;ll comment more on that on Monday.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Tony Jones and Rod Dreher.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/198\/import\/duo250.jpg\" class=\"mt-image-left\" style=\"margin: 0pt 20px 20px 0pt;float: left\" width=\"250\" height=\"164\" \/><\/span>Over the next couple weeks, I know we&#8217;ll get into all manner of<br \/>\nangles on the topic of same sex marriage, be they philosophical,<br \/>\ntheological, and biblical.&nbsp; But first, I&#8217;d like to wonder aloud about<br \/>\n<b>the role of the state in defining marriage<\/b>.&nbsp; (This will drive many of our commentors to drink, since they seem to think that all Christian reasoning begins and ends with the biblical argument.&nbsp; But, nay, there are several ways to approach this.)<\/p>\n<p>Our government does, indeed, define marriage.&nbsp; This didn&#8217;t happen<br \/>\novernight, nor did it happen with, say, an amendment to the<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Us_constitution\">Constitution<\/a>.&nbsp; Instead, it happened as do most items in our legal code,<br \/>\nover time.&nbsp; There have been campaigns for and against polygamy and miscegenation, but these now lie decades in the past.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>At local and state levels there have<br \/>\nbeen various strictures on who can marry whom and what kinds of sexual<br \/>\nacts are legal and illegal.&nbsp; And, as with so many laws, those have<br \/>\nchanged over time.&nbsp; Interracial marriage is no longer banned, and most<br \/>\nlocal anti-sodomy laws have either been dropped, ruled<br \/>\nunconstitutional, or simply not been enforced.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rod, it was great to meet you and sit on your front porch drinking coffee.&nbsp; Actually, it was even more wonderful to meet Julie and the kids, your chickens, and your incapacitated dog.&nbsp; I appreciated reading your story, and I&#8217;ll comment more on that on Monday. Over the next couple weeks, I know we&#8217;ll get&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":134,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-27","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-same-sex-marriage-blogalogue"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>The Government&#039;s Business: Same Sex Marriage Blogalogue - The New Christians<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/tonyjones\/2008\/11\/same-sex-marriage-blogalogue-t-1.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"The Government&#039;s Business: Same Sex Marriage Blogalogue - The New Christians\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Rod, it was great to meet you and sit on your front porch drinking coffee.&nbsp; Actually, it was even more wonderful to meet Julie and the kids, your chickens, and your incapacitated dog.&nbsp; I appreciated reading your story, and I&#8217;ll comment more on that on Monday. 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