{"id":252,"date":"2009-03-03T06:39:08","date_gmt":"2009-03-03T06:39:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/tonyjones\/2009\/03\/comment-of-the-day-37.html"},"modified":"2009-03-03T06:39:08","modified_gmt":"2009-03-03T06:39:08","slug":"comment-of-the-day-37","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/tonyjones\/2009\/03\/comment-of-the-day-37.html","title":{"rendered":"Comment of the Day"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/notes-from-offcenter.com\/\">Drew Tatusko<\/a> drops a very thoughtful comment <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/tonyjones\/2009\/03\/beck-defends-driscoll-while-kn.html\">Re: Mark Driscoll<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Postmodern and post-structuralism aside (since this will sound to some<br \/>\nlike that but is not), gender is different than sex due to its<br \/>\npsycho-social construction. Since it is this, anyone can assert a<br \/>\ndifferent gender construction from within a existing frame that is at<br \/>\nodds with another frame (see David Martin&#8217;s definition of this picked<br \/>\nup by Charles Taylor). Thus, Driscoll asserts his own construction of<br \/>\ngender in a way that is offensive to many. I frankly have no<br \/>\nover-arching issue with that. People are free to be misogynistic and<br \/>\nloaded with machismo as they wish. I can stay away from those<br \/>\nconstructions and find comfort in other social frames more like &#8220;me.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Where Driscoll crosses boundaries is that he uses a very<br \/>\nunsophisticated biblical legitimation for that socially constructed<br \/>\nidentity. What is important here is that the social construction of<br \/>\ngender identity in the ancient near east that absolutely placed women<br \/>\nin a lower social strata in terms of social and political influence<br \/>\namong other things. Men had to go to war and work the fields, etc such<br \/>\nis the nature of agrarian life. But Driscoll wants this image of the<br \/>\nman tow work in a social frame that increasingly eschews it save for<br \/>\nincreasingly sectarian cleavages from the norm.<\/p>\n<p>The issue is that he makes this kind of social construction of<br \/>\ngender a core value in his understanding and communication of the<br \/>\nGospel. When we make any such social constructions non-negotiable<br \/>\nfoundations to the Gospel it creates divergences from the actual<br \/>\nfunction of the Gospel and the role that Christians ought to play in<br \/>\nits communication. The Gospel is not about gender construction, it is<br \/>\nabout soul re-construction through works enacted by faith &#8211; something<br \/>\nmade effectual to ultimate salvation by God&#8217;s grace. Thus, Driscoll<br \/>\nerects a barrier to this central role for Christians with his<br \/>\nstammering through often strange notions of Jesus&#8217; gender and bizarrely<br \/>\nmisplaced renderings of the apocalyptic in terms of gender construction<br \/>\nin the frame of the secularized West.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Drew Tatusko drops a very thoughtful comment Re: Mark Driscoll. Postmodern and post-structuralism aside (since this will sound to some like that but is not), gender is different than sex due to its psycho-social construction. 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