{"id":209,"date":"2009-02-10T06:29:48","date_gmt":"2009-02-10T06:29:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/tonyjones\/2009\/02\/comment-of-the-day-28.html"},"modified":"2009-02-10T06:29:48","modified_gmt":"2009-02-10T06:29:48","slug":"comment-of-the-day-28","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/tonyjones\/2009\/02\/comment-of-the-day-28.html","title":{"rendered":"Comment of the Day"},"content":{"rendered":"

Dan H. brings up a point that raises a big question (which I’ve emboldened) in response to Original Sin: Jesus’ Ambivalence<\/a>:<\/p>\n

\n

Hmm. I would agree that Jesus never articulates an Augustinian
\nunderstanding of ‘original sin’. But I would also agree with some other
\ncommenters that the passage in John 9 does not really address the
\nquestion one way or the other. The question: ‘do bad things happen to
\nus because of our sin, or as a punishment inherited from our ancestors’
\nsins?’ is different from the question ‘do we have sin woven deeply into
\nour nature as a result of an initial Fall?’<\/p>\n

I will also say, though, that there seems to be a persistent lack of
\nclarity (in myself as well as others) as to exactly what we mean by
\n“sin” as distinct from “original sin”. I did read the definition that
\nTony posted from the BBC, and it does seem clear that Jesus did not
\narticulate that specific definition. But I wonder just how much that
\nspecific definition of “original sin” is really crucial to other
\naspects of evangelical theology?<\/b><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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