{"id":163,"date":"2009-01-21T09:38:40","date_gmt":"2009-01-21T09:38:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/tonyjones\/2009\/01\/comments-of-the-day-2.html"},"modified":"2009-01-21T09:38:40","modified_gmt":"2009-01-21T09:38:40","slug":"comments-of-the-day-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/tonyjones\/2009\/01\/comments-of-the-day-2.html","title":{"rendered":"Comment(s) of the Day"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As usual, lots and lots of mean-spirited commentary around GLBT issues here yesterday, but a couple of poignant comments stuck out under yesterday&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/tonyjones\/2009\/01\/comment-of-the-day-20.html\">Comment of the Day<\/a> and Sunday&#8217;s Announcing <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/tonyjones\/2009\/01\/announcing-queermergent.html\">Queermergent<\/a>. First, <a href=\"http:\/\/kristibennett.blogspot.com\/\">Kristi<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>done talking? done listening? i don&#8217;t understand what preson is done doing, i guess.<\/p>\n<p>and after looking at the original post, i do see that you were merely posting a link to someone, not giving your opinion on it.<\/p>\n<p>i just chatted for an hour yesterday with a childhood friend who is<br \/>\na christian and who is currently raising her 3 kids with a girlfriend<br \/>\nand is still recovering from a horribly abusive marriage. i have<br \/>\nalready been working on trying to love people where they are, but this<br \/>\nhas seriously challenged my thinking regarding people who are living<br \/>\ndifferently from me.<\/p>\n<p>right now, i am just torn apart that she has had to endure a life of<br \/>\nabuse and suffering, and i&#8217;m also confused because what i would want to<br \/>\nlabel as wrong based on my upbringing, i see as an extremely healthy<br \/>\nand safe life for her and her children compared with the &#8220;hetero&#8221; life<br \/>\nshe was leading before.<\/p>\n<p>so this leads me to think: we should not worry about alienating<br \/>\npeople who are already part of this conversation, part of the in crowd;<br \/>\nwe should be worried and focused on trying not to alienate people who<br \/>\nare part of the out crowd, bringing people together to further<br \/>\nconversation. no one said we have to be accepting of everything<br \/>\neveryone says or does. but neither do we need to sit in condemnation<br \/>\nover people.<\/p>\n<p>it&#8217;s not our jobs to decide what kind of faith people are living out<br \/>\nin their lives. i, for one, am relieved that God is the One who does<br \/>\nall the work in that department.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\nNext, Mark:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>To all who have been posting, I am a gay male. I was born gay, by God.<br \/>\nI did not have a domineering mother nor a passive father. <br \/>\nI was not sexually abused by a male at an early age.<br \/>\nI was not raised as a girl. <br \/>\nMy family life was essentially like &#8220;Father Knows Best&#8221; &#8211; the perfect example of a nuclear family. <br \/>\nI grew up going to church each Sunday.<br \/>\nI was popular and dated girls in school. <br \/>\nEvery part of my life supported and promoted a heterosexual life. <\/p>\n<p>In my late 20&#8217;s, I realized I was not a heterosexual. I sought out<br \/>\ncounseling and prayed to God to &#8220;take this cup away&#8221;. Fortunately, I<br \/>\nhad a loving family and supportive group of friends. I avoided the<br \/>\npitfalls (and escapism) of alcoholism and drugs.<\/p>\n<p>I am a medical professional who has been in a 17 year old relationship with another man, whom I love dearly. <\/p>\n<p>God does not abhor me, He does not condemn who I am, He blesses my life every day and is a constant presence. <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As usual, lots and lots of mean-spirited commentary around GLBT issues here yesterday, but a couple of poignant comments stuck out under yesterday&#8217;s Comment of the Day and Sunday&#8217;s Announcing Queermergent. First, Kristi: done talking? done listening? i don&#8217;t understand what preson is done doing, i guess. and after looking at the original post, i&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":134,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12,6,21,15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-163","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-comment-of-the-day","category-emergent-church","category-glbt","category-same-sex-marriage"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Comment(s) of the Day - The New Christians<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/tonyjones\/2009\/01\/comments-of-the-day-2.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Comment(s) of the Day - The New Christians\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"As usual, lots and lots of mean-spirited commentary around GLBT issues here yesterday, but a couple of poignant comments stuck out under yesterday&#8217;s Comment of the Day and Sunday&#8217;s Announcing Queermergent. 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