{"id":142,"date":"2009-01-14T11:02:02","date_gmt":"2009-01-14T11:02:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/tonyjones\/2009\/01\/is-mysticism-gnostic.html"},"modified":"2009-01-14T11:02:02","modified_gmt":"2009-01-14T11:02:02","slug":"is-mysticism-gnostic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/tonyjones\/2009\/01\/is-mysticism-gnostic.html","title":{"rendered":"Is Mysticism Gnostic?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In my <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/tonyjones\/2009\/01\/are-conservatives-the-real-gno.html\">Monday post<\/a>, I mused that the &#8220;secret knowledge&#8221; vibe expounded by some conservative Christians opens them to the charge of gnosticism.&nbsp; Some commenters mentioned that the other primary characteristic of gnosticism is a strict, platonic dualism.&nbsp; This, too, I think is descriptive of some conservatives in their conception of the body-spirit split, their lack of interest in creation care, etc.<\/p>\n<p>In that post, I also linked to another blogger who <a href=\"http:\/\/thinkerup.blogspot.com\/2006\/06\/is-tony-jones-even-christian_25.html\">questioned my Christianity<\/a>.&nbsp; His point is common among my hyper-conservative critics: they think that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0310258103?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=theoblogy-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0310258103\">my<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1600060595?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=theoblogy-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1600060595\">books<\/a> on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1600063497?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=theoblogy-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1600063497\">prayer<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/031025101X?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=theoblogy-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=031025101X\">spirituality<\/a> display mystical tendencies that are somehow anti-Christian.&nbsp; Contra that point, I think commenter Albert the Abstainer makes a good point:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Exclusive mysticism is ego-deception. Genuine mysticism is a process<br \/>\nof shedding the deceptions of the ego in the fires of longing created<br \/>\nby the Divine. If it is hidden, it is hidden in plain sight, in the<br \/>\ncontemplation of the love that draws, in the silent spaces where that<br \/>\nquiet voice is deafening Presence. <\/p>\n<p>Genuine mysticism crosses the boundaries of cultural and religious<br \/>\ntraditions, and is not housed in frames of secrecy. Reading the poetry<br \/>\nof the mystics from different traditions, many sighs of recognition<br \/>\nerupt within me. When the Beloved is present, all wrappings, veils and<br \/>\ncontainers lay scattered on the floor.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>True Christian mysticism is not in search of some secret revelation from God to the individual.&nbsp; It is, instead, a contemplative Christian practice is meant to clear the table of all the distractions of life so that we who wish to can simply rest in God&#8217;s presence.&nbsp; There&#8217;s no magic involved. <\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In my Monday post, I mused that the &#8220;secret knowledge&#8221; vibe expounded by some conservative Christians opens them to the charge of gnosticism.&nbsp; Some commenters mentioned that the other primary characteristic of gnosticism is a strict, platonic dualism.&nbsp; This, too, I think is descriptive of some conservatives in their conception of the body-spirit split, their&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":134,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-142","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-spirituality"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Is Mysticism Gnostic? 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