{"id":141,"date":"2009-01-14T10:58:33","date_gmt":"2009-01-14T10:58:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/tonyjones\/2009\/01\/comment-of-the-day-17.html"},"modified":"2009-01-14T10:58:33","modified_gmt":"2009-01-14T10:58:33","slug":"comment-of-the-day-17","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/tonyjones\/2009\/01\/comment-of-the-day-17.html","title":{"rendered":"Comment of the Day"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/darrenbrett.wordpress.com\/\">Darren King<\/a> weighs in on the post, <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/tonyjones\/2009\/01\/are-conservatives-the-real-gno.html\">Are Conservatives the Real Gnostics?<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Tony, I agree. And I&#8217;ve often thought about this in terms of how we<br \/>\nhandle parts of scripture &#8211; such as the epistles of Paul. Rather than<br \/>\nseeing Paul as someone who, like us, was trying to make sense of new<br \/>\nrevelation blended with old understanding &#8211; in a real-time, presentflux<br \/>\nkind of way, many conservative Christians &#8211; and even more specifically,<br \/>\nmany conservative, charismatic Christians &#8211; read Paul as if he offers<br \/>\nsome sort of pure, undiluted stream on &#8220;the spiritual world&#8221;. Now, not<br \/>\nonly is the idea of &#8220;a spiritual world&#8221; hyper-dualistic &#8211; thus gnostic,<br \/>\nbut so too is the idea that Paul had some kind of magical way of seeing<br \/>\nit all &#8211; as if he somehow bypassed the human condition and didn&#8217;t read<br \/>\nit all through a particular, contextually localized worldview.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Darren King weighs in on the post, Are Conservatives the Real Gnostics?: Tony, I agree. And I&#8217;ve often thought about this in terms of how we handle parts of scripture &#8211; such as the epistles of Paul. 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