{"id":130,"date":"2009-01-09T08:27:27","date_gmt":"2009-01-09T08:27:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/tonyjones\/2009\/01\/the-orthodoxy-of-down-syndrome.html"},"modified":"2009-01-09T08:27:27","modified_gmt":"2009-01-09T08:27:27","slug":"the-orthodoxy-of-down-syndrome","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/tonyjones\/2009\/01\/the-orthodoxy-of-down-syndrome.html","title":{"rendered":"The Orthodoxy of Down Syndrome"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.garretshelsta.typepad.com\/\">Garret<\/a> asks a good question in regards to <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/tonyjones\/2009\/01\/who-decides-orthodoxy.html\">Who Decides Orthodoxy?<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Tony,\n<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for asking good questions and getting us to think. I deeply appreciate it.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe another part could be added on to your statement discussion<br \/>\nand consensus on <\/p>\n<p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Drill.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/198\/import\/Drill.jpg\" class=\"mt-image-right\" style=\"margin: 0pt 0pt 20px 20px;float: right\" height=\"240\" width=\"320\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p>orthopraxis&#8230; and using new media mobilize<br \/>\ncommunities to common places of action. And this is being spoken on<br \/>\nbehalf of my brother with Down&#8217;s Syndrome, who has little use for<br \/>\nintellectual debates on the internet, but a deep need for actions that<br \/>\nshape will shape his and his communities theology. <\/p>\n<p>I am not meaning to diminish the importance of the intellectual<br \/>\ndiscussion of theology but I do want it to become dualistic and thus<br \/>\nneglect my brother. I also realize that this question is being spoken<br \/>\nfrom a certain theological perspective but one that I think is<br \/>\nimportant to this discussion as it proceeds. <\/p>\n<p>I am on my way out to go to work but just wanted to add an opinion before I was out.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks Tony.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Since I&#8217;m probably as philosophically as theologically bent, I&#8217;ve often struggled with the more conservative conceptions of orthodoxy because they surely tend to overestimate the ability of many human beings to articulate complex theological ideas.&nbsp; Jesus (&#8220;Come, follow me&#8221;) and Paul (&#8220;if you confess with your mouth, &#8216;Jesus is Lord,&#8217; and believe in your heart that God raised<br \/>\nhim from the dead, you will be saved&#8221;) both had thresholds of belief to which, I assume, most developmentally challenged persons could rise.<\/p>\n<p>To the argument that we can&#8217;t &#8220;lower the bar&#8221; of belief to chose exceptions in humanity who have the misfortune of a chromosomal abnormality or a tragic brain injury, my counter is that we&#8217;re all somewhere on the intellectual spectrum. Take, for instance, intelligence quotient.&nbsp; Some human beings have very high IQs, and some have very low IQS.&nbsp; But most of us fall somewhere in the middle.<\/p>\n<p><b>Definitions of orthodoxy, or &#8220;Christian belief,&#8221; it seems to me, should be attainable by every &#8212; or nearly every &#8212; human being, not just those of us within the two standard <\/b><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"bell curve.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/198\/import\/bell%20curve.jpg\" class=\"mt-image-left\" style=\"margin: 0pt 20px 20px 0pt;float: left\" height=\"259\" width=\"288\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>deviations of the center of the bell curve of intelligence<\/b> <b>quotient<\/b>.&nbsp; In other words, the threshold of belief would not be attainable by someone who is comatose.&nbsp; But it should be attainable by someone who has some verbal ability &#8212; or even some ability to communicate thoughts.<\/p>\n<p>Some might want to draw the line for the requirements of orthodoxy somewhere within the range of more cognitive function, but because I fiercely believe that developmentally challenged persons are fully human, I draw the line at a place where those persons are included.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>(Photo of boy from <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/File:Drill.jpg\">Wikipedia<\/a>, <b><a href=\"http:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/Commons:GNU_Free_Documentation_License\" title=\"Commons:GNU Free Documentation License\">GNU Free Documentation License<\/a>)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Garret asks a good question in regards to Who Decides Orthodoxy? Tony, Thanks for asking good questions and getting us to think. I deeply appreciate it. Maybe another part could be added on to your statement discussion and consensus on orthopraxis&#8230; and using new media mobilize communities to common places of action. And this is&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":134,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-130","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-theology"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>The Orthodoxy of Down Syndrome - The New Christians<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/tonyjones\/2009\/01\/the-orthodoxy-of-down-syndrome.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"The Orthodoxy of Down Syndrome - The New Christians\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Garret asks a good question in regards to Who Decides Orthodoxy? 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