{"id":10,"date":"2008-11-07T06:57:24","date_gmt":"2008-11-07T06:57:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/tonyjones\/2008\/11\/peter-rollins-is-ironic.html"},"modified":"2008-11-07T06:57:24","modified_gmt":"2008-11-07T06:57:24","slug":"peter-rollins-is-ironic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/tonyjones\/2008\/11\/peter-rollins-is-ironic.html","title":{"rendered":"Peter Rollins Is Ironic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m in Greenwich, Connecticut for the next few days, speaking at various events at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.trinitychurchonline.org\/\">Trinity Church<\/a>.&nbsp; Trinity is an exceptional church &#8212; emergent by any measure &#8212; in an area not exactly known for innovative churches.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve known a couple of Trinity&#8217;s staff members, including <a href=\"http:\/\/www.trinitychurchonline.org\/pages\/aboutUs\/ourStaff\/sean.cfm\">Sean Witty<\/a>, associate pastor, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.trinitychurchonline.org\/pages\/aboutUs\/ourStaff\/ian.cfm\">Ian Cron<\/a>, who founded the church nine years ago, has recently stepped down as lead pastor, and is the author of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1576838129?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=theoblogy-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1576838129\"><i>Chasing Francis: A Pilgrim&#8217;s Tale<\/i><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Last night, Sean emceed a private event for the leadership of the church with me and the inimitable <a href=\"http:\/\/peterrollins.net\/blog\/\">Pete Rollins<\/a>.&nbsp; Pete is a &#8220;working philosopher&#8221; (so says his book jacket), the facilitator of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ikon.org.uk\/\">Ikon<\/a> in Belfast, and the author of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1557255059?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=theoblogy-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1557255059\"><i>How (Not) to Speak of God<\/i><\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1557255601?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=theoblogy-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1557255601\"><i>The Fidelity of Betrayal: Towards a Church Beyond Belief<\/i><\/a>, two of the best books on faith and the church that I&#8217;ve ever read. (My review of the former book <a href=\"http:\/\/tonyj.net\/2006\/12\/05\/i-am-not-as-smart-as-peter-rollins\/\">here<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>I really have a great deal of affection for Pete.&nbsp; We&#8217;ve only met a handful of times, but we&#8217;ve struck up quite a friendship.&nbsp; He&#8217;s off-the-charts brilliant, as well as funny, endearing, and self-deprecating (in a very Irish way).<\/p>\n<p>Last night we spoke about many things as about 30 people looked on.&nbsp; We pushed hard on some concepts of God and God&#8217;s activity in the world, about the real shape and meaning of the biblical narrative, and about theism and a\/theism.&nbsp; Here&#8217;s Pete talking about irony from last night:<\/p>\n<p><object height=\"344\" width=\"425\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/Cy6GlDS2_RI&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1\" \/><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\" \/><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/Cy6GlDS2_RI&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" height=\"344\" width=\"425\"><\/object><\/p>\n<p>What I found most interesting was how we were received by the group.&nbsp; They were a group of well-heeled Greenwichers, many of whom work on Wall Street, and most of whom were probably a decade older than I.&nbsp; And they loved the conversation.&nbsp; These are not people who want a conventional Christianity, nor do they want a comfortable church.&nbsp; They found compelling our descriptions of a faith that, in my words, &#8220;disassembles us.&#8221;&nbsp; I&#8217;ll reflect more on my time in Greewich over the weekend.<\/p>\n<p>In the meantime, speaking of irony, from his room at the La Quinta Inn to mine, Pete sent me this YouTube video this morning:<\/p>\n<p> <object height=\"344\" width=\"425\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/LS_Uvg56U_o&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1\" \/><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\" \/><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/LS_Uvg56U_o&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" height=\"344\" width=\"425\"><\/object><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m in Greenwich, Connecticut for the next few days, speaking at various events at Trinity Church.&nbsp; 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