{"id":88,"date":"2010-09-15T10:00:00","date_gmt":"2010-09-15T10:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/thequeenofmyself\/2010\/09\/the-politics-of-polite-part-2.html"},"modified":"2010-09-15T10:00:00","modified_gmt":"2010-09-15T10:00:00","slug":"the-politics-of-polite-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/thequeenofmyself\/2010\/09\/the-politics-of-polite-part-2.html","title":{"rendered":"The Politics of Polite &#8211; Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i><br \/>Continued from yesterday, <\/i><\/p>\n<p>Just Don&#8217;t Call Me &#8230;<br \/>By Natalie Angier<\/p>\n<p>If ma&#8217;am is meant as a verbal genuflection to power, the message is lost on many real-life powerful women, like Senator Barbara Boxer, who told a brigadier general to refer to her as &#8220;senator&#8221; rather than &#8220;ma&#8217;am&#8221; at a hearing last year. &#8220;I worked so hard to get that title,&#8221; she said, &#8220;so I&#8217;d appreciate it, yes, thank you.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I put together a completely unscientific poll of my own, courtesy of the online service, SurveyMonkey, and asked some three-dozen professional women how they felt about the word &#8220;ma&#8217;am.&#8221; The group included lawyers, writers, scientists, policymakers, business executives and artists, who ranged in age from 20 to 65. Of the 27 women who responded, only 2 said they liked being called ma&#8217;am, applauding the word as &#8220;polite&#8221; and &#8220;because it amuses me&#8221;; 10 were neutral; and the remaining 15 disliked it to varying pH levels of causticity. As Jill Soloway, a Los Angeles-based writer who worked on the HBO series &#8220;Six Feet Under,&#8221; explained: &#8220;It makes me think I&#8217;m fat and old, like an elderly aunt.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>There are other reasons to dislike the term ma&#8217;am &#8212; for its whiff of class distinctions, for being dismissive, stiff and drab. &#8220;If someone calls me ma&#8217;am, it&#8217;s superficially a sign of respect, but it&#8217;s also creating distance,&#8221; Dr. Kroll said. &#8220;It&#8217;s saying, I&#8217;m not going to have a serious conversation with you; I&#8217;m not going to engage with you.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Katha Pollitt, the columnist and poet, said, &#8220;It&#8217;s part of those routine word packages that are forever flying by.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Behind the link between &#8220;ma&#8217;am&#8221; and &#8220;old&#8221; is the familiar feminist observation that, whereas a man remains &#8220;mister&#8221; and &#8220;sir&#8221; from nursery to nursing home, a woman&#8217;s honorifics change depending on her marital status and, barring that, her age. A young miss walks a few miles, and, wedding ring or no, wham, she&#8217;s a ma&#8217;am. For many women, then, the insertion of the word &#8220;ma&#8217;am&#8221; into an otherwise pleasant social exchange can feel like a tiny jab, an unnecessary station-break to comment on one&#8217;s appearance: Hello, middle-aged- to elderly-looking woman, how may I help you this evening? Thanks, prematurely balding man with the weak chin, I&#8217;ll take that table over there, in the corner.<\/p>\n<p>Defenders of ma&#8217;am consider it a dignified term. Judith Martin, who writes the syndicated Miss Manners column, is one of them. She pointed out that in England ma&#8217;am is used to address royalty of whatever age, and she attributed women&#8217;s ma&#8217;am-aphobia to the &#8220;prudishness&#8221; of modern society. &#8220;Everyone is in denial about age,&#8221; she said. &#8220;Why would you want to do away with showing respect for age? What do you gain by saying don&#8217;t treat me with respect just because I&#8217;m older? What sort of devil&#8217;s bargain is that?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Maybe we just need a jazzier term. &#8220;How about madame?&#8221; suggested Ms. Pollitt, with that final E lending the second syllable a theatrical drawl. &#8220;Madame sounds glamorous and powerful, like you&#8217;re a serious and effective person in the world.&#8221; Bonnie Bassler, a Princeton biologist said she was perfectly happy to be called &#8220;Your Highness.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Or how about nothing? Does nothing work for you? In my survey I posed a series of hypotheticals. For example: You&#8217;re at a restaurant with friends, and the waitress wants to warn you that your plate is hot. Would you prefer she say, &#8220;Careful, ma&#8217;am, that plate is very hot,&#8221; or, &#8220;Careful, miss,&#8221; or, &#8220;Careful, dear.&#8221; More than 80 percent of the respondents chose option number four: &#8220;Careful, that plate is very hot.&#8221; For one moment, a ma&#8217;am you&#8217;re not.<\/p>\n<p><i>Just call me Mama!<\/p>\n<p>Coming tomorrow is Part 2.<\/p>\n<p>***<br \/>The Queen welcomes questions concerning all issues of interest to women in their mature years. Send your inquiries to <a href=\"mailto:thequeenofmyself@aol.com\">thequeenofmyself@aol.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Continued from yesterday, Just Don&#8217;t Call Me &#8230;By Natalie Angier If ma&#8217;am is meant as a verbal genuflection to power, the message is lost on many real-life powerful women, like Senator Barbara Boxer, who told a brigadier general to refer to her as &#8220;senator&#8221; rather than &#8220;ma&#8217;am&#8221; at a hearing last year. &#8220;I worked so&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":218,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,7,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-88","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-empowerment","category-self-esteem","category-womens-issues"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>The Politics of Polite - Part 2 - The Queen of My Self<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/thequeenofmyself\/2010\/09\/the-politics-of-polite-part-2.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"The Politics of Polite - Part 2 - The Queen of My Self\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Continued from yesterday, Just Don&#8217;t Call Me &#8230;By Natalie Angier If ma&#8217;am is meant as a verbal genuflection to power, the message is lost on many real-life powerful women, like Senator Barbara Boxer, who told a brigadier general to refer to her as &#8220;senator&#8221; 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