{"id":60,"date":"2008-06-05T17:15:25","date_gmt":"2008-06-05T17:15:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/stevenwaldman\/2008\/06\/obamas-white-family-black-chur.html"},"modified":"2008-06-05T17:15:25","modified_gmt":"2008-06-05T17:15:25","slug":"obamas-white-family-black-chur","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/stevenwaldman\/2008\/06\/obamas-white-family-black-chur.html","title":{"rendered":"Obama&#8217;s White Family, Black Church&#8211;Response to Crunchy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Crunchy raises an <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/crunchycon\/2008\/06\/ends-means-and-obama.html\">excellent question <\/a>in response to <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/stevenwaldman\/2008\/06\/obamas-white-family-and-black.html\">my earlier post<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>If that&#8217;s true &#8212; and it sounds plausible to me &#8212; that does not make me feel any better about Obama&#8217;s moral reasoning. How does one get around the idea that he calculated that fear of and hostility to the white community was the glue that held Trinity&#8217;s community together, and that he thought the greater good of that community was worth the racism and paranoia that was its social glue? Why is that okay?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>First, I want to clarify something.  I don&#8217;t think Obama believed the glue that held Trinity together was hostility to whites. Rather, racial hositility was <em>one strand<\/em> within Trinity. There were other strands, too, including old-fashioned integrationists, like Obama. What Obama appreciated about Trinity, and Wright, was its capacity to unify these communities.  The glue that held those constituencies together was not hostility to whites; it was commitment to Jesus, and to the poor.  That&#8217;s what got Buppies and gangbangers, separatists and integrationists, racists and non-racists serving and praying together.<br \/>\nI think there is an ends-justifies-the-means aspect to this but not quite the one you mentioned. Trinity wasn&#8217;t based on hostility to whites but it did indeed tolerate it and, at least sometimes, encouraged it.  So the question is whether the greater good &#8212; serving Christ by serving the poor &#8212; made up for this acceptance of a very real anti-white strain.  It&#8217;s a tough question, and not one that necessarily accrues to Obama&#8217;s benefit.<br \/>\nBy the way, this is all my own armchair-psychologizing. I strongly doubt Obama would agree with my interpretation. He would say the reason he stayed is that this is the church that brought him to Christ.  I&#8217;m embarrassed to say that I didn&#8217;t take that explanation seriously enough. I should have.  It&#8217;s the old cynical journalist in me that just assumes that such a rationale coming from the mouth of a politician is inherently suspect. But we should at least be open to the possibility that that really was a key factor.<br \/>\nIf it was, then you have an even more interesting ends-justifies-the-means conundrum.  What if Obama tolerated Rev. Wright&#8217;s racist views because the pastor and the church strengthened Obama&#8217;s connection to Christ?  Rod, if you believed that to be true, would that change your view of whether he should have stayed at the church?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Crunchy raises an excellent question in response to my earlier post. If that&#8217;s true &#8212; and it sounds plausible to me &#8212; that does not make me feel any better about Obama&#8217;s moral reasoning. 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