{"id":42,"date":"2008-05-01T18:54:58","date_gmt":"2008-05-01T18:54:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/stevenwaldman\/2008\/05\/the-pope-didnt-oppose-the-iraq.html"},"modified":"2008-05-01T18:54:58","modified_gmt":"2008-05-01T18:54:58","slug":"the-pope-didnt-oppose-the-iraq","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/stevenwaldman\/2008\/05\/the-pope-didnt-oppose-the-iraq.html","title":{"rendered":"The Pope Didn&#8217;t Oppose the Iraq War? A question for Deal Hudson"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Deal,<br \/>\nYou said that while officials of the church expressed &#8220;concern&#8221; about the Iraq war, you weren\u2019t aware that the Church opposed the Iraq war. I know you&#8217;re making a distinction between the official church rulings and the mere pronouncements of the Pope, a distinction that is not always clear to many people outside (or inside) the church.  I&#8217;d love for you or David to elaborate on what the difference is.<br \/>\nCertainly, I was led to believe by the liberal media that the Pope&#8217;s views on the Iraq war went beyond mere &#8220;concern.&#8221;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/story\/0,2933,80875,00.html\"><br \/>\nVatican Strongly Opposes Iraq War<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\nWednesday, March 12, 2003<br \/>\nBut in some of the Vatican&#8217;s strongest language against a possible war, its foreign minister Archbishop Jean-Louis Tauran said a unilateral military strike would be a &#8220;crime against peace&#8221; with no justification on grounds of self-defense.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.cathnews.com\/news\/303\/124.php\"><br \/>\n<strong>Pope says Iraq war threatens humanity<\/strong><\/a><br \/>\n&#8220;When war, like the one now in Iraq, threatens the fate of humanity, it is even more urgent for us to proclaim, with a firm and decisive voice, that only peace is the way of building a more just and caring society,&#8221; he said.<br \/>\nThe Pope, in a speech to employees of Catholic television station Telepace, added: &#8220;Violence and weapons can never resolve the problems of man.&#8221;<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/archives.cnn.com\/2002\/WORLD\/europe\/12\/25\/pope\/\"><strong>Pope urges world to avoid Iraq war<\/strong><\/a><br \/>\nMonday, 13 January, 2003, 15:29<br \/>\nWithout naming countries, the pope said efforts for peace were urgently needed &#8220;in the Middle East, to extinguish the ominous smouldering of a conflict which, with the joint efforts of all, can be avoided.&#8221;<br \/>\nHis remarks echoed recent comments about Iraq by top Vatican officials, who have reiterated Catholic teaching that &#8220;preventative&#8221; war is not justifiable, The Associated Press said.<br \/>\n<strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/europe\/2654109.stm\">Pope condemns war in Iraq<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\nPope John Paul II has expressed renewed opposition to the possibility of war in Iraq, saying the use of military force had to be the &#8220;very last option&#8221;.<br \/>\nIn a New Year address to Vatican diplomats, the Pope said war was &#8220;always a defeat for humanity&#8221;, and called instead for more diplomacy and dialogue. &#8220;War is never just another means that one can choose to employ for settling differences between nations,&#8221; he said.<br \/>\nThe BBC&#8217;s David Willey in Rome says The Vatican clearly does not consider that America&#8217;s planned offensive to topple Saddam Hussein meets the conditions of a &#8220;just war&#8221; laid down by the Roman Catholic Church.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Deal, in addressing specifically my question of why such comments didn\u2019t have more influence on you and other conservative Catholic, you said, &#8220;I suppose one reason that Catholics didn&#8217;t turn against the war once negative comments were heard from members of the curia and the Holy Father, was that they didn&#8217;t feel any obligation to do so.&#8221;<br \/>\nI understand why, as a technical theological matter, you would say this.  But as a moral matter, I&#8217;m puzzled.  Why did you not find the Pope persuasive?  It was obviously something he thought about and prayed over tremendously.  He was not merely giving an off the cuff soundbite; he was saying he thought the administration&#8217;s approach to the war contradicted the essence of Christ&#8217;s teachings. Why did you find the Pope so profoundly unpersuasive on this issue when you found him deeply persuasive on other issues?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Deal, You said that while officials of the church expressed &#8220;concern&#8221; about the Iraq war, you weren\u2019t aware that the Church opposed the Iraq war. 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