{"id":188,"date":"2008-08-24T23:24:29","date_gmt":"2008-08-24T23:24:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/stevenwaldman\/2008\/08\/get-ready-for-another-pisode-o.html"},"modified":"2008-08-24T23:24:29","modified_gmt":"2008-08-24T23:24:29","slug":"get-ready-for-another-pisode-o","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/stevenwaldman\/2008\/08\/get-ready-for-another-pisode-o.html","title":{"rendered":"Is This Democrat A Bad Catholic? (Episode 73)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Get ready for another episode of, Is He a Bad Catholic?<br \/>\nFor a couple of decades now, Democrats who thought they would win over the Catholic vote by nominating Catholic politicians have been disappointed to learn that the Church views pro-choice Catholics as far worse than pro-choice Protestants.  (See: Ferraro, Geraldine; Cuomo, Mario; Kerry, John, among others).   .<br \/>\nJohn Kerry lost the Catholic vote, after being accused of violating church teachings on abortion.<br \/>\nWill Joe Biden meet the same fate?  The conservative group Fidelis hopes so, declaring already that Biden&#8217;s choice &#8220;re-opened a wound&#8221; and is a &#8220;slap in the face of American Catholics.&#8221;  <a href=\"http:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/s\/ap\/20080824\/ap_on_el_pr\/cnv_biden_catholic\"> Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver told Associated Press <\/a>Saturday that Biden should refrain from taking communion.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/progressiverevival\/2008\/08\/joe-biden-and-the-catholic-cha.html\">David Gibson over at Progressive Revival reports<\/a> that the Bishop of Delaware had resisted pressure to punish Biden, but a new Bishop takes over September 9.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s worth noting: there are a few key differences between Biden&#8217;s and Kerry&#8217;s Catholicism.<br \/>\nBiden has <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/stevenwaldman\/2008\/08\/bidens-abortion-record.html\">broken with pro-choice orthodoxy more than Kerry did<\/a>.  He supported a ban on partial birth abortion and opposes government funding of abortions.<br \/>\nThough both came of age in the Vatican II era, and thereby were influenced more liberal elements within the church, Biden has followed a more traditional Catholic path. He went to Holy Rosary day school and a Catholic High School called Archemere,  while Kerry went to a Swiss boarding school and an Episcopal boarding school.  Biden attends mass weekly and carries a rosary.<br \/>\nBiden is a bit more combative in defending his faith practice. While Kerry would respectfully disagree with those who challenged his religious bona fides, Biden told the Cincinatti Enquirer  in 2005 : &#8220;The next Republican that tells me I&#8217;m not religious, I&#8217;m going to shove my rosary beads down their throat.&#8221;<br \/>\nFinally, being Catholic in America is only partly about theology (in fact most Catholics don&#8217;t even follow church teachings on abortion or contraception).  It&#8217;s also a cultural designation.  Biden has the full Irish Catholic Catholic package &#8212;  working class roots, Catholic schooling, a &#8220;scrappy&#8221; drive to make government help the Working Man. He may therefore do better with Catholics than the preppy Kerry even if he is criticized by the Bishops just as much.<br \/>\nSo there really are two questions: will the Bishops be as tough on Biden as they were on Kerry?<br \/>\nSecond, if they do, will it hurt with Catholic voters &#8211; or does Biden&#8217;s cultural Catholicism give him teflon?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Get ready for another episode of, Is He a Bad Catholic? For a couple of decades now, Democrats who thought they would win over the Catholic vote by nominating Catholic politicians have been disappointed to learn that the Church views pro-choice Catholics as far worse than pro-choice Protestants. (See: Ferraro, Geraldine; Cuomo, Mario; Kerry, John,&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":49,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-188","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Is This Democrat A Bad Catholic? (Episode 73) - Steven Waldman<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/stevenwaldman\/2008\/08\/get-ready-for-another-pisode-o.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Is This Democrat A Bad Catholic? 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