{"id":348,"date":"2010-03-29T23:31:05","date_gmt":"2010-03-29T23:31:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/roddreher\/2010\/03\/sister-sues-spaghetti-spined-credo.html"},"modified":"2010-03-29T23:31:05","modified_gmt":"2010-03-29T23:31:05","slug":"sister-sues-spaghetti-spined-credo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/roddreher\/2010\/03\/sister-sues-spaghetti-spined-credo.html","title":{"rendered":"Sister Sue&#8217;s credo"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;To live is Christ; to die is gain.&#8221; &#8212; <em>St. Paul, martyr, to the Phillippians.<\/em><br \/>\n&#8220;Hold the crucifix up before my eyes so I may see it until I die.&#8221; &#8212; <em>Joan of Arc, at her martyrdom by fire.<\/em><br \/>\n&#8220;I have seen Christians in Communist prisons with fifty pounds of chains on their feet, tortured with red-hot iron pokers, in whose throats spoonfuls of salt had been forced, being kept afterward without water, starving, whipped, suffering from cold&#8211;and praying with fervor for the Com\u00ad\u00admunists. This is humanly in\u00adexplicable! It is the love of Christ, which was poured out in our hearts.&#8221; &#8212; <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.torturedforchrist.com\/?page_id=5\">Richard Wurmbrand<\/a>, Evangelical pastor and prisoner of the communist government in Romania.<\/em><br \/>\n&#8220;When Christ calls a man, he bids him to come and die.&#8221; &#8212; <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dietrich_Bonhoeffer\">Dietrich Bonhoeffer<\/a>, Lutheran pastor and martyr of the Nazis.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>A Creed for the Twenty-First Century<\/strong><br \/>\nI believe in God, I guess<br \/>\nwell no. I am pretty sure.<br \/>\nI do believe in God.<br \/>\nI don&#8217;t know<br \/>\nwho God is<br \/>\nor<br \/>\nwhat God is<br \/>\nor<br \/>\nhow God is<br \/>\nbut<br \/>\nI believe in God.<br \/>\nI guess.<br \/>\nI believe in Jesus Christ. I guess.<br \/>\nwell, I believe in Jesus,<br \/>\nGod-born man,<br \/>\nmy brother, friend and guide.<br \/>\nYes, I believe in Jesus.<br \/>\nBut as for Christ<br \/>\nanointed one<br \/>\nMessiah<br \/>\nSavior<br \/>\nsacrifice<br \/>\nI do, I guess, believe in Christ,<br \/>\nBut wonder<br \/>\nHow? and why ?and what?<br \/>\nSo I believe in Jesus Christ.<br \/>\nI guess.<br \/>\nDo I believe in Holy Spirit?<br \/>\nwell I guess.<br \/>\nFor something<br \/>\npart of me yet not,<br \/>\ninborn yet not of me<br \/>\nSomething makes me yearn<br \/>\nand search and open<br \/>\nsomething quite<br \/>\nagainst my will,<br \/>\nand that, perhaps, is Holy Spirit.<br \/>\nSo I believe in Holy Spirit.<br \/>\nI guess.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8212; <a href=\"http:\/\/anglican-church.suite101.com\/article.cfm\/athiest-becomes-anglican-nun\"><i>Sister Sue Elwyn, contemporary Anglican nun.<\/i><\/a><br \/>\n<b>UPDATE:<\/b> Let me add a bit of explanation. I don&#8217;t read this &#8220;credo&#8221; ironically; I think Sister Sue means it as a straightforward statement of the amorphous nature of her belief. I could be wrong, and will happily post a clarification here if someone provides it. I did take &#8220;spaghetti-spined&#8221; out of the title because I don&#8217;t want to be in the business of name-calling, and I apologize for using it. The point I am trying to make by juxtaposing this &#8220;credo&#8221; with the other quotes is that insofar as the nun&#8217;s creed is a statement of the quality of faith in the 21st century, then the faith will likely die out, because there&#8217;s nothing there to believe in. I have in mind not a theological point, necessarily, but a sociological one. Ideas have consequences, as we all know. I find it hard to imagine how the civil rights protesters could have endured all that they did without a more solid, rooted faith. (This is <i>not<\/i>, I hasten to add, a liberal vs. conservative point; a social-justice oriented Christian friend of mine, a Democrat in politics, was pointing out the other day how stark the Bible&#8217;s commandments are to serve the poor, and how unseriously we Christians take those ideas as a guide to conduct. I think he&#8217;s right.)<span class=\"mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"care-bears.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.beliefnet.com\/sites\/199\/import\/care-bears.jpg\" width=\"450\" height=\"294\" class=\"mt-image-center\" style=\"text-align: center;margin: 0 auto 20px\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;To live is Christ; to die is gain.&#8221; &#8212; St. Paul, martyr, to the Phillippians. &#8220;Hold the crucifix up before my eyes so I may see it until I die.&#8221; &#8212; Joan of Arc, at her martyrdom by fire. &#8220;I have seen Christians in Communist prisons with fifty pounds of chains on their feet, tortured&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":26,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-348","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-religion"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - 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