{"id":427,"date":"2011-05-04T12:47:54","date_gmt":"2011-05-04T16:47:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/religionandpubliclife\/?p=427"},"modified":"2011-05-04T12:52:02","modified_gmt":"2011-05-04T16:52:02","slug":"bishop-morris-gets-canned","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/religionandpubliclife\/2011\/05\/bishop-morris-gets-canned.html","title":{"rendered":"Bishop Morris gets canned"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A couple of days ago, while the <em>cr\u00e8me de la cr\u00e8me<\/em> of the Catholic blogosphere was in Rome <a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicnews.com\/data\/stories\/cns\/1101744.htm\">being whipped<\/a> into a froth of self-appreciation by Vatican officials, far away in the Outback, Bishop William Morris of Toowoomba was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicculture.org\/news\/headlines\/index.cfm?storyid=10191\">getting sacked<\/a> for daring to suggest that clerical celibacy and women&#8217;s ordination  ought to be open for discussion in the Catholic Church. From time to  time, one of the big boys, like Cardinal Sch\u00f6nborn of Vienna, has made  such a suggestion and gotten his wrist <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Christoph_Sch%C3%B6nborn\">slapped<\/a>, but so far as I know, this is the first time a bishop has been cashiered for same.<\/p>\n<p>Morris, for his part, didn&#8217;t take the decision lying down. As he put it to a letter to his priests:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;It has been my experience and the experience of others that Rome  controls bishops by fear, and if you ask questions or speak openly on  subjects that Rome declares closed . . . you are censored very quickly,  told your leadership is defective . . . and are threatened with  dismissal.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In fact, the extent to which a pope can close a discussion is itself a subject of <a href=\"http:\/\/chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it\/articolo\/1347670?eng=y\">high level debate<\/a> in conservative Catholic circles. Recently, some very conservative  clerics have taken to attacking Vatican II&#8217;s pronouncements on religious  liberty as illicitly violating Pius IX&#8217;s pronouncements on the subject.  On the other side is Martin Rhonheimer, the Opus Dei theologian who  gained some fame a few months ago for <a href=\"http:\/\/caribou.cc.trincoll.edu\/depts_csrpl\/RINVol113No2\/Editor%27s%20Column.htm\">defending<\/a> the new Vatican line on AIDS and condoms.<\/p>\n<p>Rhonheimer draws an interesting distinction between the the pope&#8217;s magisterial <em>interpretation<\/em> of dogma or natural law, which is infallible, and his <em>application<\/em> of it, which is, well, fallible:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In short: the teaching of Vatican II on religious freedom does not  imply a new dogmatic orientation, but does take on a new orientation in  the Church\u2019s social doctrine \u2013 specifically, a correction of its  teaching on the mission and function of the State. The council gave the  same immutable principles a new application in a new historical setting.  There is no timeless dogmatic Catholic doctrine on the State \u2013 nor can  there be \u2013, with the exception of those principles that are rooted in  the apostolic Tradition and in Sacred Scripture. The idea of a \u201cCatholic  State\u201d as the secular arm of the Church falls outside these principles,  which in fact suggest a separation between the political and religious  spheres.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If clerical celibacy and women&#8217;s ordination are not timeless dogmatic  Catholic doctrine but applications of such doctrine in a particular  historical setting, then might they not be, in the current historical  setting, mistaken? Shouldn&#8217;t they be, at the very least, open for  discussion?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A couple of days ago, while the cr\u00e8me de la cr\u00e8me of the Catholic blogosphere was in Rome being whipped into a froth of self-appreciation by Vatican officials, far away in the Outback, Bishop William Morris of Toowoomba was getting sacked for daring to suggest that clerical celibacy and women&#8217;s ordination ought to be open&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":222,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[29,30],"class_list":["post-427","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","tag-bishop-william-morris","tag-martin-rhonheimer"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Bishop Morris gets canned - Religion &amp; Public Life With Mark Silk<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/religionandpubliclife\/2011\/05\/bishop-morris-gets-canned.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Bishop Morris gets canned - Religion &amp; 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