{"id":143,"date":"2010-12-25T08:31:13","date_gmt":"2010-12-25T08:31:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/religionandpubliclife\/2010\/12\/yes-sandra-military-chaplains-must-obey-the-rules.html"},"modified":"2010-12-25T08:31:13","modified_gmt":"2010-12-25T08:31:13","slug":"yes-sandra-military-chaplains-must-obey-the-rules","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/religionandpubliclife\/2010\/12\/yes-sandra-military-chaplains-must-obey-the-rules.html","title":{"rendered":"Yes Sandra, military chaplains must obey the rules"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Responding to my post on military chaplains post-DADT, commenter Sandra Brown writes: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>First of all you are missing one thing, the clergy takes<br \/>\nan oath before God to uphold God&#8217;s message.<span> <\/span>Religiously speaking this is suppose to be their first commitment.<span> <\/span>A clergy member is sworn to this or their own salvation is void!<span>&nbsp; <\/span>It<br \/>\nhas nothing to do with the military<span> <\/span>only those who take their oaths SERIOUSLY.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoPlainText\">In regards to your reference to &#8220;render unto<br \/>\ncaesar,&#8221; in the clergy setting, rendering unto God is first and<br \/>\nforemost!<span>&nbsp; <\/span>Stop misquoting the bible.<span> <\/span>That was<br \/>\nnot the intent of the quote by Jesus Christ.<span> <\/span>Simply it meant to pay taxes, or obey the law, rendering unto<br \/>\nGod is to follow God&#8217;s guidelines for ministers.<span> <\/span>Remember, clergy are suppose to be set apart<br \/>\nfor God&#8217;s work Titus 1:7-16.<span> <\/span>When<br \/>\ncrossed between God and man, the clergy are suppose to choose God!<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoPlainText\">\n<p class=\"MsoPlainText\">But that&#8217;s a catch twenty-two situation because the<br \/>\nmilitary will tell them to preach acceptance not repent!<\/p>\n<p><span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoPlainText\">Let me try once more. The government does not<br \/>\ncompel clergy to serve in the military, and if a chaplain finds that he<br \/>\nor she cannot square God&#8217;s teachings (as he or she understands them)<br \/>\nwith the rules of military chaplaincy, then he or she should not serve.<br \/>\nConsider a military chaplain who comes to believe that his oath to God<br \/>\nrequires him to preach that war is always wrong. The government is<br \/>\nentitled to prevent him from doing so, and if he finds this intolerable,<br \/>\nhe should resign his commission. If there are chaplains who insist that<br \/>\nthey cannot serve without publicly attacking some other military<br \/>\npolicy, whether that be denouncing other faiths or condemning gays<br \/>\nserving openly, then they should resign their commissions as well.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoPlainText\">The military hires chaplains in order to enable <i>other<\/i><br \/>\npersonnel to have access to religious services. And that certainly<br \/>\nmeans providing an authentic version of their faith (whatever it happens<br \/>\nto be) to those who seek it. But chaplains do not have the right to<br \/>\nturn the armed services into a mission field, simply because they<br \/>\npersonally believe that God has ordered them (for example) to carry out<br \/>\nthe <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Great_Commission\">Great Commission<\/a>.<br \/>\n<span><\/span><span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Responding to my post on military chaplains post-DADT, commenter Sandra Brown writes: First of all you are missing one thing, the clergy takes an oath before God to uphold God&#8217;s message. Religiously speaking this is suppose to be their first commitment. A clergy member is sworn to this or their own salvation is void!&nbsp; It&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":222,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-143","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Yes Sandra, military chaplains must obey the rules - Religion &amp; Public Life With Mark Silk<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/religionandpubliclife\/2010\/12\/yes-sandra-military-chaplains-must-obey-the-rules.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Yes Sandra, military chaplains must obey the rules - Religion &amp; Public Life With Mark Silk\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Responding to my post on military chaplains post-DADT, commenter Sandra Brown writes: First of all you are missing one thing, the clergy takes an oath before God to uphold God&#8217;s message. 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