{"id":6806,"date":"2009-12-03T14:16:14","date_gmt":"2009-12-03T14:16:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/reformedchicksblabbing\/2009\/12\/speaking-of-gay-marriage.html"},"modified":"2009-12-03T14:16:14","modified_gmt":"2009-12-03T14:16:14","slug":"speaking-of-gay-marriage","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/reformedchicksblabbing\/2009\/12\/speaking-of-gay-marriage.html","title":{"rendered":"Speaking of gay marriage&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.villagevoice.com\/runninscared\/archives\/2009\/11\/chatting_with_a.php\">Dr. Ronald Sider in an interview with the Village Voice<\/a> explains why he signed the <a href=\"http:\/\/manhattandeclaration.org\/\">Manhattan Declaration<\/a>. I thought this was a really good question and an excellent response:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>RS: How do you feel about gay people wanting to live by these kinds of conservative principles in marriage? Isn&#8217;t the desire for gay people to get married, build a life together, buy a house, raise some kids &#8212; isn&#8217;t that kind of a vindication of the values you promote?<\/strong><br \/>\nIt&#8217;s better for the people involved, and better for the culture, if a gay person has one longer-term relationship than a whole bunch of temporary ones and promiscuity. It&#8217;s pretty clear that that&#8217;s a destructive way to live. I&#8217;m glad if a gay person has one longer term relationship, rather than a bunch of relationships. I don&#8217;t think the culture needs to say that partnership is marriage. I think it would be entirely appropriate and there is a range of views on this in the evangelical community but I would be open to a legal category of civil partnership. Gay people could have a specified number of legal rights that would encourage their ongoing commitment. But what really matters, and what&#8217;s really decisive, is what marriage means &#8212; you may have seen Susan Shell, she&#8217;s a liberal, and wrote a piece called &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalaffairs.com\/doclib\/20080710_20041561theliberalcaseagainstgaymarriagesusanmshell.pdf\">The Liberal Case Against Gay Marriage<\/a>,&#8221; and what she says is what I what I say &#8212; that is, the reason every civilization in history has defined marriage between men and women, is that society has a lot at stake in preserving continuity, in a wholesome way. It&#8217;s quite clear that when men and women who have sex and make babies stay together. It&#8217;s better for their children, and it&#8217;s better that children grow up with their moms and dads &#8212; and that&#8217;s why societies have defined marriage, to protect making babies. The real question is, what is marriage? <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>(<a href=\"http:\/\/boarsheadtavern.com\/2009\/12\/01\/15305\/\">via<\/a>)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dr. Ronald Sider in an interview with the Village Voice explains why he signed the Manhattan Declaration. I thought this was a really good question and an excellent response: RS: How do you feel about gay people wanting to live by these kinds of conservative principles in marriage? 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