{"id":6570,"date":"2009-08-16T09:52:18","date_gmt":"2009-08-16T09:52:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/reformedchicksblabbing\/2009\/08\/obama-hey-i-lost-my-grandma-wh.html"},"modified":"2009-08-16T09:52:18","modified_gmt":"2009-08-16T09:52:18","slug":"obama-hey-i-lost-my-grandma-wh","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/reformedchicksblabbing\/2009\/08\/obama-hey-i-lost-my-grandma-wh.html","title":{"rendered":"Obama: Hey, I lost my grandma, why would I want to pull the pug on grandmas?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So, <a href=\"http:\/\/hosted.ap.org\/dynamic\/stories\/O\/OBAMA_TOWN_HALL?SITE=TXMID&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT\">Obama uses his grandma as a way to prove that he doesn&#8217;t hate old people<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;I just lost my grandmother last year. I know what it&#8217;s like to watch somebody you love, who&#8217;s aging, deteriorate and have to struggle with that,&#8221; an impassioned Obama told a crowd as he spoke of Madelyn Payne Dunham. He took issue with &#8220;the notion that somehow I ran for public office or members of Congress are in this so they can go around pulling the plug on grandma.&#8221;<br \/>\n&#8220;When you start making arguments like that, that&#8217;s simply dishonest &#8211; especially when I hear the arguments coming from members of Congress in the other party who, turns out, sponsored similar provisions,&#8221; Obama said.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But he brought this all on himself in a <a href=\"http:\/\/justoneminute.typepad.com\/main\/2009\/08\/the-obama-death-panel-rumors-the-times-looks-everywhere-but-the-mirror.html\">NY Times interview in April when he talked about his grandma getting a hip replacement only to die soon afterward<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>THE PRESIDENT: So that&#8217;s where I think you just get into some very difficult moral issues. But that&#8217;s also a huge driver of cost, right?<br \/>\nI mean, the chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health care bill out here.<br \/>\nLEONHARDT: So how do you &#8212; how do we deal with it?<br \/>\nTHE PRESIDENT: Well, I think that there is going to have to be a conversation that is guided by doctors, scientists, ethicists. And then there is going to have to be a very difficult democratic conversation that takes place. It is very difficult to imagine the country making those decisions just through the normal political channels. And <strong>that&#8217;s part of why you have to have some independent group that can give you guidance<\/strong>. It&#8217;s not determinative, but I think has to be able to give you some guidance. And that&#8217;s part of what I suspect you&#8217;ll see emerging out of the various health care conversations that are taking place on the Hill right now.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>A group giving guidance on end of life issue, hmmm&#8230;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/worldnews\/northamerica\/usa\/6029697\/Barack-Obamas-death-panels-dropped.html\">that sounds familiar<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So, Obama uses his grandma as a way to prove that he doesn&#8217;t hate old people: &#8220;I just lost my grandmother last year. I know what it&#8217;s like to watch somebody you love, who&#8217;s aging, deteriorate and have to struggle with that,&#8221; an impassioned Obama told a crowd as he spoke of Madelyn Payne Dunham.&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":119,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[412,399],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6570","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-health-2","category-politics-2"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v23.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Obama: Hey, I lost my grandma, why would I want to pull the pug on grandmas? - Reformed Chicks Blabbing<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/reformedchicksblabbing\/2009\/08\/obama-hey-i-lost-my-grandma-wh.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Obama: Hey, I lost my grandma, why would I want to pull the pug on grandmas? - Reformed Chicks Blabbing\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"So, Obama uses his grandma as a way to prove that he doesn&#8217;t hate old people: &#8220;I just lost my grandmother last year. 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