{"id":23,"date":"2008-07-31T11:42:00","date_gmt":"2008-07-31T11:42:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.beliefnet.com\/progressiverevival\/2008\/07\/up-from-the-pigeon-hole.html"},"modified":"2008-07-31T11:42:00","modified_gmt":"2008-07-31T11:42:00","slug":"up-from-the-pigeon-hole","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/columnists\/progressiverevival\/2008\/07\/up-from-the-pigeon-hole.html","title":{"rendered":"A Note from the Pigeon Hole"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The proprietors of Progressive Revival have encouraged us original bloggers to&nbsp;comment on&nbsp;a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.streetprophets.com\/storyonly\/2008\/7\/30\/12846\/3777\">post by pastordan<\/a> at Street Prophets offering a conditional disparagement of the ideological disposition of this crew.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>Since Pastordan singled me out for abuse as nothing more than a &#8220;DLC hack,&#8221; guess I should rise to a point of personal privilege by responding.&nbsp; First off, pastordan, if you are going to&nbsp;insult&nbsp;someone you don&#8217;t actually know, you should keep up.&nbsp;I&nbsp;make no apologies for my background, but did give up my policy director gig and spokesman role with the DLC well over a year ago, and am now principally occupied as managing editor of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedemocraticstrategist.org\/\"><em>The&nbsp;Democratic Strategist<\/em><\/a>.&nbsp;You&nbsp;might want to go to that site&nbsp;and read what I&#8217;m writing. You&nbsp;could also ask, say, Markos Moulitsas and Joan McCarter of DailyKos, or Chris Bowers of OpenLeft, or Josh Marshall or Ezra Klein or Rick Perlstein, just to name a few progressive notables, if they consider me a &#8220;DLC hack.&#8221;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>Enough of that.&nbsp;My broader point is that the people initally recruited for Progressive Revival&nbsp;were chosen&nbsp;not for sitting at some presumed point on any ideological spectrum, but because they&#8217;ve challenged in one way or another the identification of organized religion with the political and cultural Right (that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m here, for example,&nbsp;via&nbsp;jeremiads&nbsp;like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedemocraticstrategist.org\/newdonkey\/2005\/05\/false_prophets.html\">this<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedemocraticstrategist.org\/newdonkey\/2005\/01\/the_real_secularists.html\">this<\/a>),&nbsp;as&nbsp;spiritually as well as morally and politically dangerous.&nbsp;This remains, as I hope pastordan would agree, a pretty&nbsp;important mission, particularly among the very broad readership of Beliefnet.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Trying to pigeon-hole complicated people with complicated&nbsp;points of view as belonging to the &#8220;left&#8221; or &#8220;center&#8221; is typically&nbsp;a tiresome and reductive exercise, and the&nbsp;ancient struggle for ownership&nbsp;of the word &#8220;progressive&#8221;&nbsp;will probably never be resolved.&nbsp;&nbsp;Moreover, I suspect&nbsp;most Progressive Revival contributors would agree that&nbsp;religious faith involves a <em>supernatural<\/em> commitment to principles of truth, justice and love that can never be completely encompassed by any secular ideology.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>This commitment, as pastordan rightly suggests,&nbsp;often&nbsp;demands&nbsp;a willingness to confront&nbsp;the authorities, whoever they might be, and to challenge&nbsp;&#8220;friends&#8221; as&nbsp;well as &#8220;enemies&#8221;&#8211;even &#8220;progressive&#8221; friends on occasion.&nbsp;But I&#8217;d encourage&nbsp;skeptics to put down the label-maker and judge Progressive Revival&#8217;s actual product, instead of pre-judging it based on, well, prejudices about its contributors.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The proprietors of Progressive Revival have encouraged us original bloggers to&nbsp;comment on&nbsp;a post by pastordan at Street Prophets offering a conditional disparagement of the ideological disposition of this crew.&nbsp; 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